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Reply #15 - May 10th, 2017 at 5:18pm
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Bill Lawrence wrote on May 10th, 2017 at 1:59pm:
Both were masters of their craft.

All right, I'll bite.  We almost all know who (Adolph O. ["Pop"]) Niedner was; who was Neidner?

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Reply #16 - May 11th, 2017 at 12:01am
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I had at one time a set of belding and mull reloading tools for the 25 niedner. I bought them thinking they for the 25/06. they were marked 25 neidner and were for a cartridge based on the 30/40. the chamber on my 25/06 niedner mauser was chambered tight. I finally neck turned the cases and shortened the necks to minimum dimensions. rounds I used all summer and fall failed to chamber in sub 30 degree weather. the buck that passed my stand that embarrassing morning got hit with a snow ball instead of a bullet.
  
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Reply #17 - May 11th, 2017 at 12:02pm
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Yer kiddin' me. You use a .25-06 to shoot deer that you can hit with a snowball?
  
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I sit on a stand morning and evening usually on the edge of a field, just inside the wood line. in between I still hunt (still hunting is a form of stalking / woods loafing). the niedner / mauser begged me to go that day and that's the story.
  
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Reply #19 - May 11th, 2017 at 4:53pm
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Oh, I know still hunting. I live in a place where some consider your .25-06 a medium range deer gun. Never saw a tree stand until I visited upstate NY. Some places I have hunted you can't even see trees. Two mile walk between 'em, over a 8000 foot mountain. I'd be too pooped to throw a snowball.  Smiley
  
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calledflyer wrote on May 11th, 2017 at 4:53pm:
Never saw a tree stand until I visited upstate NY.


Wait till you pass through Texas.  (Where you don't need trees, only structural steel.)
  
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I have never been to Texas. Harvey Donaldson sure wasn't on their Dept. of Tourism payroll.
  
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Reply #22 - May 11th, 2017 at 9:02pm
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If you shoot straight down the valley in Nevada your bullets will stop for lunch and water before they hit a tree.
  
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Reply #23 - May 12th, 2017 at 9:59am
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The only one I have ever seen was stamped 25-20. Thats it no indication on SS or WCF.
it was WCF.
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Reply #24 - Jul 7th, 2017 at 6:40pm
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I bought a ballard a few months ago, said 25-20 on it assumed it would be a 25-20 WCF. my assumption was wrong... it was a 32-20 relined for a  25-20SS-after doing a chamber cast- picked up another of the same caliber in a Stevens 44.  In the mean time, jumping the gun a little,  I'd ordered a liner and reamer (WCF) for the Ballard because description stated the bore was "rough".   Both of these shoot remarkably well, "rough" and all, I'm leaving them both as is.  Used the liner in a '92 Win and cut the chamber in that for the WCF, maybe it's just that it's not a single shot, I feel the WCF isn't quite what the SS is - the brass for the SS is readily available, the WCF, not so much.

About the trees - I was told when I moved to Wyoming (from southern Montana) there was a pretty girl behind every tree, I had to look for quite a while... and to hunt from a tree here? heck, we'd have to brace it up to support a tree stand.  Smiley
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Re: stevens 25/20 question
Reply #25 - Jul 8th, 2017 at 8:37am
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I have examined two Stevens 44 1/2s that were marked 25 20 and turned out to be 25 20 WCF. the barrels appeared to be factory and unaltered. That's all I know.
  
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Re: stevens 25/20 question
Reply #26 - Jul 13th, 2017 at 8:27am
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About 20 years ago I got a fairly plain high wall marked 25-20 WCF.  Oddly enough, it's actually chambered in 25-20 SS and won't chamber the WCF round.  Back in the '90s it was common to ream out a SS chamber to WCF since at the time WCF brass was much more easily found.  It always pays to check your chamber for what it actually is!  BTW, although you can ream a SS chamber to accept the WCF, going the other way requires setting back the barrel and a whole new chamber.  Will a SS chamber reamed to WCF still shoot OK with SS?  I doubt it... those high priced cases would probably blow out at the base.  Smiley

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Reply #27 - Jul 13th, 2017 at 8:33am
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The 44.5 Model 47 that I have is marked 25-20 and is the SS Cartridge.

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Reply #28 - Jul 13th, 2017 at 9:01am
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Green_Frog wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 8:27am:
About 20 years ago I got a fairly plain high wall marked 25-20 WCF.  Oddly enough, it's actually chambered in 25-20 SS and won't chamber the WCF round...


Actually it's not odd for any Win. SS made before about 1894 or so, when Win. decided to call their new necked-down .32-20 case .25 WCF.  Only then did they begin using the .25-20 SS designation for new guns made for that chambering.
  
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