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scharfe Oldtimer Offline A good plan today beats a perfect plan tomorrow. Posts: 542 Location: ny / pa line Joined: Dec 18^th, 2006	stevens 25/20 question May 6^th, 2017 at 8:01am	Print Post
	how did stevens mark the bbl for the 25/20 wcf?


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: stevens 25/20 question Reply #1 - May 6^th, 2017 at 9:26am	Print Post
	Looking through a few late Stevens catalogs, I don't even find that chambering listed as being available.


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scharfe Oldtimer Offline A good plan today beats a perfect plan tomorrow. Posts: 542 Location: ny / pa line Joined: Dec 18^th, 2006	Re: stevens 25/20 question Reply #2 - May 6^th, 2017 at 10:29am	Print Post
	ok, the old memory maybe worse than I thought. will a 25/20 wcf reamer clean up a 25/20 ss chamber?


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7324 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: stevens 25/20 question Reply #3 - May 6^th, 2017 at 10:32am	Print Post
	scharfe wrote on May 6^th, 2017 at 10:29am: ok, the old memory maybe worse than I thought. will a 25/20 wcf reamer clean up a 25/20 ss chamber? No, the Win is about 5/16 to short. Frank

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scharfe Oldtimer Offline A good plan today beats a perfect plan tomorrow. Posts: 542 Location: ny / pa line Joined: Dec 18^th, 2006	Re: stevens 25/20 question Reply #4 - May 6^th, 2017 at 11:33am	Print Post
	thanks for all the help. you guys are just great !!!


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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2845 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: stevens 25/20 question Reply #5 - May 7^th, 2017 at 5:02pm	Print Post
	Don't think I have ever seen a Stevens with a factory-marked 25-20 WCF barrel. Not sure they made any. 25-20 SS is a better cartridge, brass from Captech/Jamison. But beware of any Stevens .25 caliber markings. I have a 44-action Model 47 marked "25-20" in the original Stevens manner. It is a .25 rimfire barrel, 17" twist, .252 groove. Some of the Stevens work was just plain sloppy.


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: stevens 25/20 question Reply #6 - May 7^th, 2017 at 5:41pm	Print Post
	waterman wrote on May 7^th, 2017 at 5:02pm: Don't think I have ever seen a Stevens with a factory-marked 25-20 WCF barrel. Not sure they made any. Can't believe they did, with three proprietary .25s of their own to promote. But that .25-20 mis-marking is beyond careless! Would be mighty upsetting to buy such a gun at a show, then later find you'd bought an all but unusable RF.


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: stevens 25/20 question Reply #7 - May 8^th, 2017 at 3:00am	Print Post
	waterman wrote on May 7^th, 2017 at 5:02pm: Don't think I have ever seen a Stevens with a factory-marked 25-20 WCF barrel. Not sure they made any. 25-20 SS is a better cartridge, brass from Captech/Jamison. But beware of any Stevens .25 caliber markings. I have a 44-action Model 47 marked "25-20" in the original Stevens manner. It is a .25 rimfire barrel, 17" twist, .252 groove. Some of the Stevens work was just plain sloppy. Conversely, a while ago I acquired an unmarked barrel in near mint condition, chambered for .25 Stevens RF, but which has a .257 groove diameter. It does have a serial number. Stevens ballooned from a 75 man shop in 1895 to a huge concern with hundreds and hundreds of workers by 1900. Not too surprising that detail management may have been slipshod.

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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2845 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: stevens 25/20 question Reply #8 - May 8^th, 2017 at 3:16am	Print Post
	My .25-20 Stevens with the .25 rimfire barrel marked 25-20 has the usual Stevens serial numbers on barrel and action. Both are the same. The rifle is chambered for .25-20 Single Shot. They jammed the reamer into a .25 rimfire barrel, 17" twist. Oddly, it shoots pretty well with 77 and 86-87 grain bullets, but so far my trials of 60 grain bullets have been disappointing. 100 grain bullets tumble.


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: stevens 25/20 question Reply #9 - May 8^th, 2017 at 9:13am	Print Post
	uscra112 wrote on May 8^th, 2017 at 3:00am: [quote author=283E2B3A2D323E315F0 link=1494072076/5#5 date=1494190951]Not too surprising that detail management may have been slipshod. Surprising only that more serious problems didn't result. Even though there were undoubtedly more skilled machine operators in and around the Conn. R. Valley than any other place in the country, it's amazing Stevens could recruit so many so quickly.


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coljimmy Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 283 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2012	Re: stevens 25/20 question Reply #10 - May 8^th, 2017 at 11:56am	Print Post
	I got a low wall with an 87,xxx s/n with a 23 and 1/8th barrel on it where the 25-2... disappears under the receiver ring. Has a guy named Neidner's name stamped on the barrel. Suppose you would have to do the same, but I hear he was good at such stuff. Or do what I do with my Hopkins & Allen and Stevens - reload 25-20SS and have fun with it. 25-20 WCF came out for the '92 Win, but a couple of years later. James


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scharfe Oldtimer Offline A good plan today beats a perfect plan tomorrow. Posts: 542 Location: ny / pa line Joined: Dec 18^th, 2006	Re: stevens 25/20 question Reply #11 - May 10^th, 2017 at 10:39am	Print Post
	"guy named Neidner's name stamped on the barrel". was there any other markings like malden, mass or Dowagiac, mich ? does it have stevens markings ? you wrote neidner was it actually niedner ?


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: stevens 25/20 question Reply #12 - May 10^th, 2017 at 1:07pm	Print Post
	scharfe wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 10:39am: you wrote neidner was it actually niedner ? Both were masters of their craft.


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Bill Lawrence Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1037 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: stevens 25/20 question Reply #13 - May 10^th, 2017 at 1:59pm	Print Post
	Both were masters of their craft. All right, I'll bite. We almost all know who (Adolph O. ["Pop"]) Niedner was; who was Neidner? Bill Lawrence


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scharfe Oldtimer Offline A good plan today beats a perfect plan tomorrow. Posts: 542 Location: ny / pa line Joined: Dec 18^th, 2006	Re: stevens 25/20 question Reply #14 - May 10^th, 2017 at 2:27pm	Print Post
	i'm wondering too. too scared to ask first though. still have my shares in the Brooklyn Bridge, they maybe worth something someday.


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