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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Where do all the original scope mounts go? May 5^th, 2017 at 11:59am	Print Post
	What reason would anyone have for separating a scope from it's original mounts? But it happens very often, as with these two Stevens newly-listed on ebay. Seller makes no claim of originality, so they are what they are. In Marlin mounts: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links); Mossberg...?: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7324 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Where do all the original scope mounts go? Reply #1 - May 5^th, 2017 at 12:23pm	Print Post
	The 740 scope has a very odd front mount. It's a Win 8X front mount, somehow graphed to a standard width dove tail. The 8X scopes, used a .600 wide dovetail. I wish I could see the bottom of the front mount.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16276 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Where do all the original scope mounts go? Reply #2 - May 6^th, 2017 at 10:10am	Print Post
	At least the one with the Marlin rear mount has the better 4 point click adjustable mount. Owner may have found that mount more to his liking before these scopes were considered collectable. Back in the 70's and 80's I bought a bunch of the old short 17"-22" external adjust scopes at local gun shows for under $20 often. Must have had 20-30 of them in a footlocker under my loading bench! One of my few good investment choices! Still have some of the better ones, but sold the rest when they got stupid priced.

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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Where do all the original scope mounts go? Reply #3 - May 6^th, 2017 at 11:06am	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on May 6^th, 2017 at 10:10am: At least the one with the Marlin rear mount has the better 4 point click adjustable mount. Owner may have found that mount more to his liking before these scopes were considered collectable. The steel Marlin mount is without doubt the best of all these similar ".22 scopes." But except for the clicks, if you think you need them (I really don't, preferring the smooth rotation of mounts without them), I wouldn't rate this Marlin superior to the original Stevens, esp. the later ones with the large flat "buttons" fitted loosely into the ends of the screws.


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Travelor Full Member Offline Posts: 132 Location: Central Arkansas Joined: May 5^th, 2008	Re: Where do all the original scope mounts go? Reply #4 - May 7^th, 2017 at 7:48am	Print Post
	frnkeore wrote on May 5^th, 2017 at 12:23pm: The 740 scope has a very odd front mount. It's a Win 8X front mount, somehow graphed to a standard width dove tail. The 8X scopes, used a .600 wide dovetail. I wish I could see the bottom of the front mount. You need to clean your keyboard.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16276 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Where do all the original scope mounts go? Reply #5 - May 7^th, 2017 at 10:15am	Print Post
	The Marlin 3 point was not better than the Stevens. But I think the improved Marlin 4 point shown in the auction was better.

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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Where do all the original scope mounts go? Reply #6 - May 7^th, 2017 at 12:08pm	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on May 7^th, 2017 at 10:15am: The Marlin 3 point was not better than the Stevens. But I think the improved Marlin 4 point shown in the auction was better. Never had or used any of the Marlin mounts, so didn't know this distinction between them. But have shot a LOT with Lyman 5As in Lyman's first type of 4-point. Found that sometimes if tube was accidentally moved up or down slightly it would "stick" in that position, due to the "equal & opposite" spring pressure. Can't happen with the "unbalanced" thrust exerted by a 3-point, which is why, I presume, all makers changed eventually to that design. But I'd still prefer the Marlin to any of the pot-metal 3-point designs!


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16276 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Where do all the original scope mounts go? Reply #7 - May 7^th, 2017 at 4:48pm	Print Post
	Marlin offered their scope as the #1 and the #2, but it was the same scope. Only difference was #1 is 3 point or #2 is 4 point rear scope mount. The 4 point had not only 4 point mount, but also finer adjustments, and since it was click adjustment it didn't have locking rings that the 3 point #1 had. I don't mind clicks if they're fine, but coarse clicks can be an issue.

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