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Stevens 108 in .38-55 on Gunbroker
May 4th, 2017 at 10:43am
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This just popped up on GB.  Seller has it listed as a Model 45, but the features and the serial number (2601) clearly make it a Model 108 (or maybe a 109?).  Does not have the lugged hammer. Has a tang sight I have not seen before.  The staff spring is on TOP of the base, rather than underneath.    Lots of detail photos.  No reserve.   I must force myself to abstain.  My safe is already overflowing.  Comments?

  

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Re: Stevens 108 in .38-55 on Gunbroker
Reply #1 - May 4th, 2017 at 12:04pm
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That's a great looking Stevens, for it's age. I wonder what a "great bore" means. It must not have been shot much so, maybe it is in "great" condition.

They sure took a lot of pictures (106) but, none of the front of the action, with the forearm off so, you could see if it actually IS a 45. It could very well be a 45 though, with the butt plate and sights.

It looks like the breech block, makes contact with the action. Maybe they made sure of that with the 108 type, before having to add the lugged hammer.

It would make a great 22RF though!

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Re: Stevens 108 in .38-55 on Gunbroker
Reply #2 - May 4th, 2017 at 1:32pm
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Good looking rifle. To my thinking I would say it is a 107 with a very late serial number.
Model 107 plain wood and mid. Barrel sight
Model 108 deluxe wood and mid barrel sight
Model 109 plain wood and no mid barrel sight
Model 110 deluxe wood and no mid barrel sight

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Reply #3 - May 4th, 2017 at 2:31pm
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The Beach sight alone is worth a chunk of change
  
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Reply #4 - May 4th, 2017 at 6:35pm
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The Beach sight alone is worth a chunk of change


That's the Lyman copy made after Beach's pat. expired.
  
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Reply #5 - May 4th, 2017 at 6:37pm
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Isn't there a pin, or something, completely through the receiver between the hammer screw and the trigger screw?  Or is it just pitting on both sides of the rcvr?
  
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Reply #6 - May 4th, 2017 at 7:51pm
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I think it's just a pit or ding in the finish.

The block and lever pins look too stout for a 108.  It looks more like a very early 45 to me, with the right-angle frame, the screw-in lever and block pins and the 7:00 extractor.

The 107 I have has rather spindly block and lever pins, the blotchy, rather than ripply, casehardening colors and a skinnier barrel than the later 44 models.

A look at any metal protected by wood would be very instructive.  I'd definitely ask for a look at the front of the receiver before bidding.
  
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Re: Stevens 108 in .38-55 on Gunbroker
Reply #7 - May 4th, 2017 at 9:18pm
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Bent_Ramrod wrote on May 4th, 2017 at 7:51pm:
It looks more like a very early 45 to me, with the right-angle frame...


Never have seen a 108; wouldn't it have had the right-angle also?  Used to dislike the right-angle frame models; now I like them a lot, for no reason I can explain!  (But not enough to bid on this one.)
  
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Re: Stevens 108 in .38-55 on Gunbroker
Reply #8 - May 4th, 2017 at 9:51pm
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Bent Ramrod both the large and small screws where used on 107, 108, 109,110 and early 44 actions. It was more of a caliber thing then a action thing.  The small caliber rifles used the small screws and larger caliber us large.  I have 2 model 109's. On 38 XL Ballard and one 25-20 swift both small screw and have seen a 32-40 with a large screw. I also have a pair of early 44's one in 25-25 with  small screw and a 32-40 with a large screw that is within 350 of the serial number of the 25-25.   
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What caliber is your 107 small screw?
  
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Re: Stevens 108 in .38-55 on Gunbroker
Reply #9 - May 5th, 2017 at 12:49am
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frnkeore wrote on May 4th, 2017 at 12:04pm:
They sure took a lot of pictures (106) but, none of the front of the action, with the forearm off so, you could see if it actually IS a 45. It could very well be a 45 though, with the butt plate and sights.
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Grant shows a rifle he IDs as a Model 109 with a higher serial # than this one, so my money says that it's not a 45.  

I've identified three sizes of pivot screw.  My .22-20 s/n 2023 is .226, then there's my s/n 2459 in .32 Ideal which is .258, and then circa s/n 9000 they all became .288, which is the same size as the two-piece "bolts".   But after #2459 I have logged a Model 47 that is .226, however, so it does seem that screw size was chosen according to caliber.  

I took it for a 108, but the wood is rather plain, so 107 can't be ruled out.  My two are not marked in any way to indicate model, so looking at wood and sights are the only way to tell, as far as I know.
  

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Re: Stevens 108 in .38-55 on Gunbroker
Reply #10 - May 5th, 2017 at 9:02am
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I have two 109's. The early one number 2013 is not marked but 2422 is both caliber and model marked on the bottom flat of the barrel under the forearm.
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Re: Stevens 108 in .38-55 on Gunbroker
Reply #11 - May 5th, 2017 at 9:59am
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My 107 is a .32-35 Stevens.  Serial number in the 20XX range.
  
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Re: Stevens 108 in .38-55 on Gunbroker
Reply #12 - May 5th, 2017 at 3:51pm
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Bent_Ramrod wrote on May 5th, 2017 at 9:59am:
My 107 is a .32-35 Stevens.  Serial number in the 20XX range.


Does your 107 have the same buttplate as the higher numbers?
  

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Re: Stevens 108 in .38-55 on Gunbroker
Reply #13 - May 6th, 2017 at 11:48pm
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Just the standard crescent plate.
  
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Re: Stevens 108 in .38-55 on Gunbroker
Reply #14 - Jun 6th, 2017 at 12:23pm
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Thats the same tang sight Stevens used on their tip ups.
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Re: Stevens 108 in .38-55 on Gunbroker
Reply #15 - Jun 6th, 2017 at 1:27pm
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Bent_Ramrod wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 11:48pm:
Just the standard crescent plate.

The butt plate is the Stevens #2 Schuetzen. It does have the same inletting and is the same butt stock as the #1 Sporting but, it's a prong butt plate. It was standard on the #45 model with up to #2 or #3 barrel. 

I believe it was for youthfull or lady shooters, as it's a bit small for grown men.

The #3 Butt stock and #3 Schuetzen butt plate was for the heavier barrel rifles.

The #2 & #3 are pictured.

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