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Electronic Powder Dispenser Recommendation
Apr 11th, 2017 at 1:21pm
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What takes me longer than anything else is measuring powder.

Any recommendations for an electronic dispenser with integral scale recommendations?

I think that "smokeless powder only!" warnings are crap.

Yes, it isn't pure like a Belding and Mull, but as Daffy Duck said, "I am lazy." And I have $ to spend.

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Reply #1 - Apr 11th, 2017 at 2:02pm
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I have used an old AMT that has a beam scale catching the powder from a high and a low-speed trickler. It's pretty accurate with big loads of powder. These are out of production if I'm not mistaken. 
A good friend uses a more up to date electronic unit from RCBS. Also only used for big loads in his rifles.  Its as accurate as the scale is. 
Neither is very fast. In fact, mine is pretty slow. If you want fast, I'd get a conventional measure that is consistent and learn how to use it to best advantage. I returned to that because changing to different powders was a PIA on the wired up beast. 
Just my thoughts, others may have more to tell ya.
  
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Reply #2 - Apr 11th, 2017 at 2:38pm
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There are a bunch of YouTube videos on these. I will look at those.   Cool
  
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Reply #3 - Apr 11th, 2017 at 4:53pm
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Considering almost everyone I know who owns an electronic measure has had some issue with inconsistency at some time, I wont use one myself. I bought a Lyman and checked it against my mechanical scale over a period of time, and eventually returned it for my money back. It never was far enough off to be dangerous, but never as consistent as my mechanical scales.
  

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Reply #4 - Apr 11th, 2017 at 5:49pm
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I concur with the automatic ones being "good enough" to keep one out of danger. But, they did a good job when weighing charges of, say, 60-80 grs. where a tenth or two is statistically insignificant. 
That same tenth probably won't make dangerous loads, but may be enough to alter the load performance when you get down to under twenty grains. 
Either way, they ain't fast at all. When you trickle the whole thing, fast or slow, it takes time. Needless to tell, mine sits unused other than as a source of a spare scale to check on other ones.
  
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Reply #5 - Apr 12th, 2017 at 1:03am
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I have had a AMT autoscale since they came out for use with SR4759 powder as i never found a measure that would throw a accurate charge of that powder. But they are a pain in the butt to change powders in. They are simple to set only a nob to adjust when the high speed bbl stops rotating and the trickler bbl takes over to finish the charge. The rest is just a good beam scale.
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Reply #6 - Apr 12th, 2017 at 7:18am
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The only folks I know who have kept and continue to use their electronic powder dispensers are those with an RCBS. I sold my PACT and use a B&M for BP and a Hornady press mounted/stroke activated powder dispenser for smokeless. But, I'm totally OCD about charges and measure every one (both BP & smokeless) on an electronic scale with a 0.02gr resolution. YMMV.
  

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Reply #7 - Apr 12th, 2017 at 11:52pm
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There was a young fellow here a few years ago who blew up a new Winchester Model 70 on a Brown Bear hunt. He's lucky he or the guy next to him wasn't hurt. After a whole lot of study and theories as to why it happened the conclusion we came to was that he had been reloading pistol cartridges with his electronic powder dispenser before he shifted over to his rifle cartridges. Before he changed powders he didn't pick up the dispenser and dump the pistol powder out of the horizontal drop tube. The fast pistol powder that didn't get emptied out most likely was what caused the blowup. The lesson I learned was to stick with the Lyman beam scale and powder measure I've used for the last 40 plus years.

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Reply #8 - Apr 14th, 2017 at 7:32pm
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Dribbling up to weight on a scale never made any sense to me. Too slow and you can get sloppy accepting less than perfect . I did anyway. You can't weight at the shooting bench either. 

Way I do it is set my Harrell's measure for the exact charge desired. If it's a trouble powder like 4759 or 4350, never load them while shooting, throw into the beam balance scale pan. Put it on the scale and check weigh every charge. If it's light or heavy dump the powder in a separate container and throw another. Don't try to fix a faulty throw. Dumping and re throwing adds very little time to the loading process. Put the dumped powder back in the jug when through. 

Other thing is I use a Lyman beam balance scale calibrated with a set of check weights. Avoid anything battery operated in my shop. Don't trust anything that is not calibrated, throwback to my Hydrographic surveying days.  

Advantage to check weigh  is every throw is checked and you soon see what caused the bad one. After a while you can tell what's not going to weight correct before it goes on the scale by the way you operate the measure. Almost always inconsistent handle operation.

Done it enough I completely trust the Harrell's and 4227, don't trust it or any other measure B & M included with any longer grain powders. 

Not saying it's the method for everybody just it works for me. 

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Reply #9 - Apr 14th, 2017 at 7:49pm
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They are becoming more and more popular with the Jacketed benchrest group. Go over to Benchrest Central and post your questions and or concerns they are a good group of exremely compeitive shooters, some in the Hall of Fame. Just be careful who you listen to but it will become very obvious in a shot amount of time and if Jackie Schmidt responds you can take what he has to offer on the subject to the bank.

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boats wrote on Apr 14th, 2017 at 7:32pm:
... Don't trust anything that is not calibrated, ...

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Re: Electronic Powder Dispenser Recommendation
Reply #11 - Apr 15th, 2017 at 7:05pm
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SSShooter wrote on Apr 12th, 2017 at 7:18am:
The only folks I know who have kept and continue to use their electronic powder dispensers are those with an RCBS. I sold my PACT and use a B&M for BP and a Hornady press mounted/stroke activated powder dispenser for smokeless. But, I'm totally OCD about charges and measure every one (both BP & smokeless) on an electronic scale with a 0.02gr resolution. YMMV.


And this is the winner. I just placed my RCBS order.

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Re: Electronic Powder Dispenser Recommendation
Reply #12 - Apr 15th, 2017 at 11:50pm
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You won't be disappointed with the Chargemaster.  Keep a dryer static sheet handy if you build up a static charge, just wipe it down to eliminate any "wandering".  If it makes you feel better get an inexpensive set of check weights but mine has always been spot on.  I turned the "beep" function off about an hour after I got it!
  

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