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moodyholler Oldtimer Offline Posts: 721 Location: Blue Ridge Joined: Oct 11^th, 2005	Forming 28-30 120 from what metric case? Mar 28^th, 2017 at 9:56pm	Print Post
	What metric case can you form 28-40 from? I tried the search function but found no answer. Does anyone have extensive knowledge on drawing cases? I have experience in a tool and die shop and can make considerable equipment. Thanks moodyholler


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7674 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Forming 28-30 120 from what metric case? Reply #1 - Mar 29^th, 2017 at 10:49am	Print Post
	I could only find one: 6.6x70R Sauer - rim .417, head, .355 The 9.3x72R might be done but, would be labor intensive. You would have to reduce it .072. I have made 32/40's out of 30/40's, that's a reduction of .041 and I did it in two passes. Frank

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ledball Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1021 Location: syracuse, ohio Joined: Nov 20^th, 2009	Re: Forming 28-30 120 from what metric case? Reply #2 - Mar 29^th, 2017 at 10:58am	Print Post
	There is no case I know of that can be used to form the 28/30' mainly because of the length, 2 1/2 inches, except the 6 X 70R which seems to be unavailable. Ledball


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beltfed Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 1827 Location: Central Wi Joined: Dec 20^th, 2007	Re: Forming 28-30 120 from what metric case? Reply #3 - Mar 29^th, 2017 at 11:10am	Print Post
	Might be the best thing to go to the experts: Rocky Mt Ctg and have some made. beltfed/arnie


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7674 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Forming 28-30 120 from what metric case? Reply #4 - Mar 29^th, 2017 at 11:25am	Print Post
	beltfed wrote on Mar 29^th, 2017 at 11:10am: Might be the best thing to go to the experts: Rocky Mt Ctg and have some made. beltfed/arnie I would second that. Much easier that way. Frank

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moodyholler Oldtimer Offline Posts: 721 Location: Blue Ridge Joined: Oct 11^th, 2005	Re: Forming 28-30 120 from what metric case? Reply #5 - Mar 29^th, 2017 at 5:31pm	Print Post
	EXCEPT the experts TURN brass not draw it and I much prefer and wish to throw some money and time at it


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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3987 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Forming 28-30 120 from what metric case? Reply #6 - Mar 29^th, 2017 at 6:07pm	Print Post
	I'd like to see the drawings of the 28-30 and 28-40.

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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Forming 28-30 120 from what metric case? Reply #7 - Mar 29^th, 2017 at 7:09pm	Print Post
	Re the .28-30-120 Stevens, Donnelley's book says: " There is no 'good' way to make this case other than to turn from solid 7/16" dia. brass. Turn case, trim to length, chamfer, anneal and F/L size. It may be possible to re-body a .224 Weatherby casehead but, I have not done so. "

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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Forming 28-30 120 from what metric case? Reply #8 - Mar 29^th, 2017 at 7:21pm	Print Post
	Argue it with Donnelley, JL.

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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Forming 28-30 120 from what metric case? Reply #9 - Mar 29^th, 2017 at 7:32pm	Print Post
	Place your order with Huntington, JL, and let us know when you receive the 6x70R brass.

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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Forming 28-30 120 from what metric case? Reply #10 - Mar 29^th, 2017 at 7:42pm	Print Post
	JLouis wrote on Mar 29^th, 2017 at 7:40pm: Maybe someday our paths will cross and we can sort out all of our differences BP it would be something I would be highly looking forward too! I'm here, JL.

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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Forming 28-30 120 from what metric case? Reply #11 - Mar 29^th, 2017 at 8:02pm	Print Post
	Since we're both here, I though you might not want to be wasting any time, JL.

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Bnelson Full Member Offline Posts: 200 Location: Lower Michigan Joined: Jan 5^th, 2009	Re: Forming 28-30 120 from what metric case? Reply #12 - Mar 29^th, 2017 at 8:46pm	Print Post
	Many years ago, there was a guy making custom brass in Alpena, Michigan. I got some 28-30 from him that he made from 30-06. Hard to believe, but you could still see the stamp on the end of the case. I can't imagine what kind of a press he used, but they were great brass. Bruce


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ledball Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1021 Location: syracuse, ohio Joined: Nov 20^th, 2009	Re: Forming 28-30 120 from what metric case? Reply #13 - Mar 29^th, 2017 at 9:17pm	Print Post
	30/06 to 28/30 could be done with a BIG press. I wonder if a mandrel would have to be made to hold the primer pocket-flash-hole. The case would have somewhat less case capacity but it would be very strong-let's call it a 28/30 Everlasting. thanks for the post Ledball


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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Forming 28-30 120 from what metric case? Reply #14 - Mar 29^th, 2017 at 10:17pm	Print Post
	JL, Can you post a copy of that original charter you have? I've heard you refer to it oftentimes before, but have never yet seen a copy of one of those charters for any early ASSRA member. Some of us would enjoy seeing such an early piece of ASSRA history.

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