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cdnrokon Full Member Offline Posts: 138 Location: Winnipeg,Manitoba Canada Joined: Feb 27^th, 2016	Hot rod ballards Mar 26^th, 2017 at 3:30pm	Print Post
	Looking for ideas for my rebuild of a Ball& Williams , any pictures


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Hot rod ballards Reply #1 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 3:47pm	Print Post
	cdnrokon wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 3:30pm: Looking for ideas for my rebuild of a Ball& Williams , any pictures What's wrong with keeping it as close as possible to the original configuration? (Other than the addition of scope blocks.)


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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2625 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: Hot rod ballards Reply #2 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 5:04pm	Print Post
	Hot Rod Ballards made me think of this. It's kinda neat and is definitely a Hot Rod (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Chris.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18095 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Hot rod ballards Reply #3 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 5:57pm	Print Post
	I would simply look at Marlin Ballard rifles and see the various options you might enjoy. Then build that around your Merrimack. I think a #9 Union Hill style would make a nice little .22 rimfire rifle. These are all Union Hill Ballards. The top one modified with a palm rest and a larger Swiss buttplate: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Top one her is a Schoyen style. Middle a Creedmoor style, and bottom an engraved Union Hill: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Top one another Schoyen style. Middle a Union Hill shotgun butt. Bottom a Rigby style engraved: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Poor picture, but these are: Cased Schoyen top. #6 Schuetzen middle (in .22RF Short) #3F Fine Gallery bottom in .22Long. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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cdnrokon Full Member Offline Posts: 138 Location: Winnipeg,Manitoba Canada Joined: Feb 27^th, 2016	Re: Hot rod ballards Reply #4 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 6:41pm	Print Post
	That is some nice Ballard porn


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18095 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Hot rod ballards Reply #5 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 7:41pm	Print Post
	cdnrokon wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 6:41pm: That is some nice Ballard porn Thanks. Was part of my display at our annual "single shot show" today.

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bohemianway Oldtimer Offline Posts: 706 Location: Andover, MN Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: Hot rod ballards Reply #6 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:26pm	Print Post
	This Merwin and Bray (Ball & Williams) is a nice handling gun in .38. Maybe do yours up as a period sporting rifle.


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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Hot rod ballards Reply #7 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 11:36pm	Print Post
	They look really nice from here VAl. Bet they look a lot better the closer one gets

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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Hot rod ballards Reply #8 - Mar 27^th, 2017 at 12:07am	Print Post
	bohemianway wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:26pm: This Merwin and Bray (Ball & Williams) is a nice handling gun in .38. Maybe do yours up as a period sporting rifle. That get's my vote.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18095 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Hot rod ballards Reply #9 - Mar 27^th, 2017 at 9:50am	Print Post
	Schuetzenmiester wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 11:36pm: They look really nice from here VAl. Bet they look a lot better the closer one gets Thanks Bob. Wish I could take pictures without always being blurry.

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7674 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Hot rod ballards Reply #10 - Mar 27^th, 2017 at 10:47am	Print Post
	Schuetzenmiester wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 11:36pm: They look really nice from here VAl. Bet they look a lot better the closer one gets And so much better in person! Not to mention the "Three Amigo's"........ Vall, Ed and John. Ed and John, also had their collections all set up together with Vall's. One long row of single shots. My jaw is sore this morning!!! There were also a bunch of HW (both SST and DST) LW and Stevens for sale. A great show for a SS guy!!! Frank

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cdnrokon Full Member Offline Posts: 138 Location: Winnipeg,Manitoba Canada Joined: Feb 27^th, 2016	Re: Hot rod ballards Reply #11 - Mar 27^th, 2017 at 11:45am	Print Post
	You guys have all the nice stuff , I was at a gun show on the weekend only two single shots in the whole building Stevens favorited 659.00 in 22 Rd the other was a Stevens 44 1/2 in 22 hornet for 750. The hornet was a parts gun it had mis matched wood and some unknown barrel on it. The hammer was bobbed for cleaning rod approach pricing is in Canadian funds


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.22Hepburn Oldtimer Offline Posts: 844 Location: Pennsylvania Joined: Feb 18^th, 2008	Re: Hot rod ballards Reply #12 - Mar 27^th, 2017 at 12:37pm	Print Post
	I had Dave Crossno build me a .22 rf "hot rod #3 Ballard" - Douglas 1-14" twist barrel with self-cocking / speed-locked / bobbed / drilled and lightened hammer, Eric Johnson extractor, and Winchester 52D chamber. Also has coil a spring adjuster that replaces the factory "C" spring. Trigger pull is adjusted to 4 oz, with no creep. The rifle also has his straight action pistol grip stock.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18095 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Hot rod ballards Reply #13 - Mar 27^th, 2017 at 4:10pm	Print Post
	.22Hepburn wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 12:37pm: I had Dave Crossno build me a .22 rf "hot rod #3 Ballard" - Douglas 1-14" twist barrel with self-cocking / speed-locked / bobbed / drilled and lightened hammer, Eric Johnson extractor, and Winchester 52D chamber. Also has coil a spring adjuster that replaces the factory "C" spring. Trigger pull is adjusted to 4 oz, with no creep. The rifle also has his straight action pistol grip stock. Sounds very nice! I'd love to hear more about how they replaced the C spring with a coil spring! Or even better, see a picture!!!

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.22Hepburn Oldtimer Offline Posts: 844 Location: Pennsylvania Joined: Feb 18^th, 2008	Re: Hot rod ballards Reply #14 - Mar 27^th, 2017 at 8:01pm	Print Post
	The C spring replacement was copied from one on a CC Johnson Ballard. It is basically a coil spring with a plunger. The plunger is also an over travel stop for the trigger. The tension from the coil spring on the trigger adjusts the sear/cock notch engagement. I have another custom .22 Ballard with a similar C spring replacement. It is speed-locked and has a custom trigger with a built-in shoe. Unfortunately there are no markings on the gun to indicate who did the work on it. This one also has spring installed in the breechblock that holds the lever at 90 degrees when the breechblock is lowered. I assume it was done to aid in re-loading. This Ballard will be going to Mike at Crossno Gun Service soon to have the Pope-style hammer conversion done.


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