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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7674 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	38 Cal, Tapered GB Mar 20^th, 2017 at 11:16am	Print Post
	Dusty Rhodes has asked me to draw a 38 caliber, "Money" type bullet, that can be breech seated, fairly easy and to offer it as a NOE group buy. As you can see, it's for .380 groove barrels but, it would also be available for .375 barrels. It will fully stabilize in a 16 twist barrel. Sign up and/or ask questions about it, here. Frank
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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2944 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: 38 Cal, Tapered GB Reply #1 - Mar 20^th, 2017 at 12:30pm	Print Post
	Sign me up. I'll take one in the 0.376" base diameter. Looks like a terrific breech-seat bullet for my 38-50. Should also work on chickens & pigs with fixed ammo. BTW - can NOE do a 38cal 2-cavity mold?
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nuclearcricket Oldtimer Offline Posts: 824 Joined: Oct 15^th, 2008	Re: 38 Cal, Tapered GB Reply #2 - Mar 20^th, 2017 at 12:54pm	Print Post
	How much would the .376 bullet weigh if it were lengthened by one more grease grove and would it stabilize in a 15" twist? Sam


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7674 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: 38 Cal, Tapered GB Reply #3 - Mar 20^th, 2017 at 2:04pm	Print Post
	Group buy: If your on this list, you have ordered the 1.33 long mold. 1. Dusty Rhodes, 2 cav brass, .381 2. Dusty Rhodes, 2 cav brass, .381 3. sharps, 1 cav alum, .381 4. Bullshot, 2 cav alum, .381 5. jy3855, 2 cav brass, .376 6. Borderman, 2 cav alum, .376 7. Oldeyes, 1 cav alum, .376 8. Lefty38-55, 1 cav alum, .376
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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7674 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: 38 Cal, Tapered GB Reply #4 - Mar 20^th, 2017 at 2:06pm	Print Post
	SSShooter, yes, I'm sure it can be 2 cav. nuclearcricket, It would be about 32 gr more. And there would be no problem in a 15 twist. Frank

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Old-Win Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1831 Location: Minnesota Joined: Nov 24^th, 2005	Re: 38 Cal, Tapered GB Reply #5 - Mar 20^th, 2017 at 2:14pm	Print Post
	Looks more Postell than the Metford/Money bullet. If you'really going to lengthen it, I would put it in the nose rather than the base. Also, you might want to make the base band diameter on the smaller one .377 as many 38 barrels are .376. I do like the nose shape though. Bob


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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2625 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: 38 Cal, Tapered GB Reply #6 - Mar 20^th, 2017 at 2:16pm	Print Post
	This is not too different than the Creedmoor tapered bullet I have for breech seating in my CPA. Mine has smaller bands for a 0.376 groove, but it's by far the best bullet this rifle has ever seen. I'm sure that bullet will work very well. Chris.


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7674 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: 38 Cal, Tapered GB Reply #7 - Mar 20^th, 2017 at 2:18pm	Print Post
	Thank you for your input, Bob. The dimensions where specified by Dusty (Ian) but, with his permission, things might be able to be modified to get the required 10 buyers. I just specified that it's a Money "type" bullet, I actually have the spec's to do a real Money bullet, from one of our forum members. Thank you, John. But, it would take some juggling to comform the nose to that. Frank
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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2944 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: 38 Cal, Tapered GB Reply #8 - Mar 20^th, 2017 at 3:22pm	Print Post
	frnkeore wrote on Mar 20^th, 2017 at 2:06pm: SSShooter, yes, I'm sure it can be 2 cav. nuclearcricket, It would be about 32 gr more. And there would be no problem in a 15 twist. Frank Great. For what it's worth, my 14" twist, 30" 38-56 would stabilize a 340gr 1.43" long Brooks bullet, but nothing longer/heavier. My 12" twist, 26" long 38-50 has no problem with the 365gr BACo Money bullet. What is the weight gain by removing to 1st GG?

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7674 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: 38 Cal, Tapered GB Reply #9 - Mar 20^th, 2017 at 7:27pm	Print Post
	Quote: What is the weight gain by removing to 1st GG? I'm not sure what your talking about. Chris, Thank you for the input. Frank

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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2944 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: 38 Cal, Tapered GB Reply #10 - Mar 20^th, 2017 at 9:32pm	Print Post
	Delete the GG (grease-groove) nearest the nose so only have four (4) GGs.

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7674 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: 38 Cal, Tapered GB Reply #11 - Mar 20^th, 2017 at 10:42pm	Print Post
	Not much, maybe 2 gr. Frank

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Dusty Rhodes Full Member Offline Posts: 175 Joined: Apr 28^th, 2016	Re: 38 Cal, Tapered GB Reply #12 - Mar 20^th, 2017 at 11:10pm	Print Post
	Some interest Frank, keep it going. I have no issues with it becoming 340 - 360 grn. I have the Pedersoli 1:12.
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craigster Oldtimer Online Posts: 824 Location: lost coast CA Joined: Feb 20^th, 2011	Re: 38 Cal, Tapered GB Reply #13 - Mar 21^st, 2017 at 12:25am	Print Post
	frnkeore wrote on Mar 20^th, 2017 at 2:06pm: SSShooter, yes, I'm sure it can be 2 cav. nuclearcricket, It would be about 32 gr more. And there would be no problem in a 15 twist. Frank OK in a 16 as well ? Estimated $s for a single cavity ?
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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7674 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: 38 Cal, Tapered GB Reply #14 - Mar 21^st, 2017 at 2:30am	Print Post
	Yes, It will work in a 16 twist. $57.80, 1 cav alum. $76.50, 1 cav brass. Frank

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