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Re: SR-4759 Powder
Reply #30 - Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:28pm
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For fixed ammo, I've used that charge of 4759 behind bullets from the old stand-by 165 grain (a version of which is still available from Lyman as the 319247 if my froggie brain recalls correctly) to the long-discontinued Ideal 31952 in 200 grain weight.  It just seems like a good place to start with any reasonable bullet weight.  I also used it a bunch with my Green Mtn barreled high wall takedown to breech seat behind the 319289 and the recently re-released WH French bullets (both at about 185 grains) among others.  It may not be the ultimate charge for all of them, but it seems like a great place to start.  No guarantees, though.  YMMV.

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Reply #31 - Mar 26th, 2017 at 10:20pm
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Thank you for clearing that up. Now what's YMMV?

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Reply #32 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 10:01am
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"Your Mileage May Vary" or your results may be different from mine.
  
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Reply #33 - Mar 29th, 2017 at 3:25pm
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I think we've got enough mileage out of this thread.

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Reply #34 - Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:16pm
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Do you have the Ideal 31952 mold in 200gr?  Because it is a variable single weight or the Perfection mold 75 - 225gr
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31952. This series of bullets is known as the .32-40 short point. They have become very popular. For different purposes all of the weights have friends. No. 3 special tool only made to load them.
(PB, FN, 75, 100, 125, 150, 175, 200, 225 Also perfection - TP is 295)

  
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Reply #35 - Mar 31st, 2017 at 10:13am
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Sendaro wrote on Mar 5th, 2017 at 12:03pm:
Yes I've been told that the SR-4759 powder had been scratched from production, but I have about 10 pounds of it. I figure if I've got it I may as well use it. So I have a few questions I'd like to put out to shooters who are familiar with this powder.

Having tried several different powder measures I come to the conclusion that this powder doesn't meter that well. Have any of you found a measure that you find better suited to this powder? So far the large Harrell's and the RCBS Uni-Flow have been about the best for me.

Question #2 Over the years I've found slight differences in some lots of powder. One that was apparent many years ago was 2400. I just use that as an example, and I don't want to get into that. I'm sure that there is some one who has used SR-4759 for many years and could answer this question. How is this powder from lot to lot, does it remain consistent?  

Would like to hear your thoughts and suggestions.

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I ended up with enough of the 4759 to last more than my lifetime. I use the Redding  model 3-BR measure. Opened up the opening in the plastic insert that is in the bottom of the measure, helped with the bridging problem. I also removed the plastic insert int he bottom of the measure and obtained from Sinclair clear drop tubes and an adapter that screw on the outside of where the plastic insert had been.
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Re: SR-4759 Powder
Reply #36 - Apr 3rd, 2017 at 9:04pm
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Do you have the Ideal 31952 mold in 200gr?  Because it is a variable single weight or the Perfection mold 75 - 225gr
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31952. This series of bullets is known as the .32-40 short point. They have become very popular. For different purposes all of the weights have friends. No. 3 special tool only made to load them.
(PB, FN, 75, 100, 125, 150, 175, 200, 225 Also perfection - TP is 295)



Yes, mine is the single weight version, 200 gr nominal weight, so one groove shorter than the very longest.  It IS the old fashioned integral type, not separate blocks and handles.  I have done some really good shooting with this bullet and can see why the Perfection mould in this design would be a great one to own.

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Reply #37 - Apr 3rd, 2017 at 11:15pm
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ireload2, found an article in the gun digest some years back about shooting cast bullets in military surplus rifles by C.E.Harris. Just so happened at about the same time I traded for a 1935 Finn model 27 with a beautiful bore. Mr. Harris did suggest the Lyman #314299 bullet which was originally designed for the 303 British cartridge. Bought the mold and and as they say the rest is history. 
I weigh each charge 20.0 grains and when my eyes cooperate I get 2" groups which is as good as I can do with open sights. Frank
  
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Reply #38 - Apr 6th, 2017 at 2:05pm
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About 20 years ago during the early popularity of  BPCR competition, Browning built 40-65 rifles for competition for about 3 years. This was about 1996 to 1998 or 1999.  These rifles were built on the 1885 Browning HighWall and it is important to keep this in mind about my loading data.  My data may be over pressure for a cast iron rifle like the Ballard that blew up at a match. 

Lyman marketed cast lead  LRHP 400 gr Snover bullets for .40 caliber BPCR rifles in the early 2000s.  They included a small chart of pressure tested loading data for the .40-65 Win for use only in single shot rifles.

This chart included data for SR4759. The Lyman data for the 400 grn bullet started at 17 grains (1140 FPS  and 8,900 PSI). 
It maxed out at  21 grains  (1373 FPS and 17,900 PSI).
If you search this site you can find the table from the Lyman data. I posted it here 4 to 6 years ago.

From that data I interpolated data for another bullet weighing 312 grains.  I used the same Lyman data with the lighter bullets and had zombies (unburned powder grains) left in my bore. I do not like like running over powder grains with the next bullet or having to blow them out so I boosted the powder charge to 23 grains of SR4759. The bigger charge burned cleaner and the zombies disappeared. Groups shot using the tang sight are near 1" at 100 yards. 

This bullet is the NEI gas check #206 bullet made for the .405 Win. This bullet was under size (for the .405) at .410 diameter and it worked perfectly in my rifle's .408 groove diameter.   


SgtDog0311 wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 8:20am:
Ireload2, cool scale!  Never seen that one before.

Did you keep any data for your 4759 loads in the 40-65??  Bullet weight, velocity... etc.

I gave 4198 a little test and had thought to do the same with 4759.   

  
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