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singleshotom Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 371 Location: tofield AB. Canada Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2008	Re: How many Millers were built? Reply #15 - Mar 8^th, 2017 at 10:06am	Print Post
	I believe I heard once it was Dean..... which would make sence CD .. tom


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7249 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: How many Millers were built? Reply #16 - Mar 8^th, 2017 at 11:44am	Print Post
	Thank you, Tom. Does anyone know what barrel shank dimensions are on the Millers? Frank

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Jeff_Schultz ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1600 Location: Ransomville, NY Joined: Apr 25^th, 2004	Re: How many Millers were built? Reply #17 - Mar 8^th, 2017 at 12:01pm	Print Post
	7/8 x 18

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7249 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: How many Millers were built? Reply #18 - Mar 8^th, 2017 at 12:22pm	Print Post
	Thank you, Jeff. So, it looks like I have a Clyde Miller, 32/40 barrel for a Miller action. It's 14 twist. I bought it, thinking it was for a 44 1/2, untill I got it home and tried to screw it into my 44 1/2, and then measured the pitch. I don't have a Miller and won't be getting one. The shank is to small to modify to anything else. Anyone interested in it? Frank

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Skalkaho Oldtimer Offline Posts: 776 Location: Montana Joined: Sep 29^th, 2006	Re: How many Millers were built? Reply #19 - Mar 8^th, 2017 at 1:18pm	Print Post
	I thinks its Kyle with a C...Cyle? Talked with him years back after the Swindle. He didnt even want to talk about it. I briefly owned a Matched pair... 32 miller Highboy and 22RF Lowboy. I think the Lowboy had enough meat on it to handle the 32 miller or anything else you could throw at it.A very nice action....Pete I did buy That Fiddleback Miller.....but read my Lips..."No more guns from now on......

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Wapiti Full Member Offline Posts: 133 Location: Colorado Joined: Jun 6^th, 2006	Re: How many Millers were built? Reply #20 - Mar 8^th, 2017 at 1:22pm	Print Post
	Dean's full name was Dean E. Miller as shown on the Patent from 1971. Cherie was Dean's wife, so that may be where the "C" comes from. Cyle, their son, didn't get involved with schuetzen shooting end until the late '80's.
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bnice Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1845 Location: Iowa Joined: Nov 30^th, 2006	Re: How many Millers were built? Reply #21 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 11:14am	Print Post
	Millers seem to be going cheap at Amoskeg today


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Wapiti Full Member Offline Posts: 133 Location: Colorado Joined: Jun 6^th, 2006	Re: How many Millers were built? Reply #22 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 5:04pm	Print Post
	bnice wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 11:14am: Millers seem to be going cheap at Amoskeg today Ain't that the truth!!! There goes my retirement. Anyone know who owned and or built them ?


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Old-Win Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1667 Location: Minnesota Joined: Nov 24^th, 2005	Re: How many Millers were built? Reply #23 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 6:05pm	Print Post
	There certainly were a lot of modern rifles that were built for bench shooting and BPCR and looks like all for the same person. Millers, Peregrines and Borchardts. It looks like no expense was spared as some of the wood had to be worth well over a $1000 on some of those rifles. The Ken Hurst engraved Borchardt brought only $3000 and even with the additional $17.5% was a hell of a deal. I luvd that Miller F. $2250


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: How many Millers were built? Reply #24 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 7:59pm	Print Post
	I tend to think some of the charm is gone with the Miller's they ruled the line here at one time and now you very rarely see one. Our group of about eleven monthly regulars some times less now mostly shoot a rifle of the more traditional design and they are doing just as well if not better at times in regards to the nation wide benchrest scores. Tax time, uncertainty with whats going on in this countey and money being so tight these days is also probably keeping all of the prices down. JLouis

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bnice Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1845 Location: Iowa Joined: Nov 30^th, 2006	Re: How many Millers were built? Reply #25 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 10:16pm	Print Post
	I Still see them everywhere else we shot.


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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: How many Millers were built? Reply #26 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 11:04pm	Print Post
	They are definitely everywhere else including CBA here, but I don't feel out gunned with my Ballard. It just requires a little more concentration and effort Prices may be reflective of lack of interest in schuetzen by younger shooters, collapsing middle class income, and older shooters liquidating

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Zack T Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 354 Joined: Apr 9^th, 2010	Re: How many Millers were built? Reply #27 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 11:43pm	Print Post
	I think interest is in the toilet and the market is really soft. Same goes for the entire single shot market. Antique guns are way down save the Colt and Winchester crowd and they arent running as hard as they once were. I picked up a very nice original hartford sharps sporting rifle that sold for less that 1/2 of what it sold for in 2007- same auction house. I think it is only going to get worse. I also think it has to do with where we are in the collector life cycle. Everyone who bought $10 and $20 ballards and sharps in the 50s are in their 80s and 90s- if their kids havent already pawned the guns they get sold off or turned in to police gun round ups and torched. I know a fellow who pulled a pile of historical old single shot rifles out of a dumpster when his friend died. Daughter was anti gun and threw a lifes collection away


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