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Black powder measure
Feb 21st, 2017 at 9:56pm
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How are you measuring your black powder? Would like like to hear low tech and high grade equipment and your results.
  
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Re: Black powder measure
Reply #1 - Feb 21st, 2017 at 10:37pm
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Belding and Mull measure for me.  Most consistent results, no slicing of powder grains.

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Reply #2 - Feb 21st, 2017 at 11:04pm
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Lyman Black Powder Measure

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Reply #3 - Feb 21st, 2017 at 11:15pm
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bpjack wrote on Feb 21st, 2017 at 10:37pm:
Belding and Mull measure for me.  Most consistent results, no slicing of powder grains.

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I don't like that heavy spring pressure with a B&M, which may merely make such slicing as does occur less noticeable.  I preferred using an Ideal #5, until I got my first #1.  Probably not as accurate as a B&M, although I made copper baffles for all my Ideals which help equalize the weight of the powder column similar in effect to the separate powder and metering chambers of a B&M.

When I HAVE to use long grain smokeless, which I do my best to avoid, then I use the B&M, precise because that heavy spring action helps to shear the gains cleanly, without so much grating as with other measures.   
  
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Reply #4 - Feb 21st, 2017 at 11:37pm
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My Belding and Mull has had the handle and spring removed.  I shuttle the hopper back and forth by hand.  I do use a small rubber band to hold it to the left so it won't dump accidentally.  I keep a container below it just in case.  It has an extra tall reservoir with a sliding indicator built into the cap so the level does not get too low.

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Reply #5 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 1:10am
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I measured a couple tons using a Lyman.  The rotary drum works well with BP. More important to load with a drop tube at least 18" long that worry about the measure.
  
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Reply #6 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 6:24am
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Are you weighing charges or just throwing them. I plan to use a drop tube. I have other measures for smokless just looking for something to use with black powder.
  
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Re: Black powder measure
Reply #7 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 8:34am
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Belding and Mull.

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Reply #8 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 9:59am
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bpjack wrote on Feb 21st, 2017 at 11:37pm:
My Belding and Mull has had the handle and spring removed.  I shuttle the hopper back and forth by hand.  I do use a small rubber band to hold it to the left so it won't dump accidentally.  I keep a container below it just in case.  It has an extra tall reservoir with a sliding indicator built into the cap so the level does not get too low.

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Looks like a very good idea, although you still have the "extra step" with a B&M of pouring the powder from the charge tube into the case, rather than dropping the charge directly into the case.   

Theoretically, at least, the separate metering chamber of a B&M should eliminate any variation caused by powder level in the hopper.
  
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Reply #9 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 11:50am
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Sorry to step on your post...Any idea where to get a lid for a B&M? I'm using an old soft plug at the moment....Thanks...Randy A.
  
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Reply #10 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 12:15pm
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brass freeze plug for small block Chevy. let me know and I can get correct number from Napa.
  
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Reply #11 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 12:34pm
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The plug is 1 5/8 "  number 1640, also a lighter spring for Belding and Mull is number 143, Ace hardware.
  
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Re: Black powder measure
Reply #12 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 1:51pm
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I use my old Lyman 55 with a 24" drop tube set for 46 grains of Swiss 3fg. That's all I use it for and it's very consistent.
  
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Reply #13 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 2:42pm
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    The B&M powder measure will deliver nice results, but is d------d cumbersome to use.   If you learn to operate a drum measure AS IF it were delivering powder to the measuring tube like a B&M -- no clunks, no vibration, etc., you will get as good results.   Turn the rotor gently to its stop, turn back gently to dump, and you got it.    I have a B&M, but NEVER use it, and rely on an old Hollywood drum measure.  In a test, throwing 50 gr BP, 20 drops had weight SD of around 0.15 gr.  You don't NEED any better than that.

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Re: Black powder measure
Reply #14 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 5:23pm
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Cast iron Ideal number 5 works just fine.
  
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