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Statesrights Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 446 Location: Virginia Joined: May 3^rd, 2016	.360 Rook Feb 15^th, 2017 at 8:23pm	Print Post
	I could use some help preparing cartridges for a .360 Rook. Figuring to shorten .38 spl brass, but I don't know where to look for the bullet. I have read that using a .357 wadcutter works, but I figure a heeled Bullet would work better. Suggestions welcomed.


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fallingblock ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 651 Location: Wisconsin Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: .360 Rook Reply #1 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 8:32pm	Print Post
	If you get healed bullets it would be better i.e. more original. However I use 38 special wad cutters and they work fine. Cheers, Laurie

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Fred Boulton Oldtimer Offline Posts: 801 Joined: Jan 6^th, 2007	Re: .360 Rook Reply #2 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 6:34am	Print Post
	Groove diameters for 360 no5 rifles are all over the place. I have one which is marked; "for .360-.380 long cartridges". The groove diameter is .375" which makes it actually a .380 long. It is not accurate with hollow based wad cutters. If yours is .372", it is a true .360 no5 and will probably shoot better with HBWC loads than with the healed bullet. Fred


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Statesrights Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 446 Location: Virginia Joined: May 3^rd, 2016	Re: .360 Rook Reply #3 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 7:28am	Print Post
	Thanks for the feedback. I'll try the wad cutters first as it's the easier option and then see where to go.


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emmett22405 Full Member Offline Posts: 164 Location: Virginia Joined: Sep 21^st, 2009	Re: .360 Rook Reply #4 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 9:21am	Print Post
	SR if you find you have a groove diam of .360 or so and the 357-358 diameters don't work out Western Bullet, Matt's Bullets and Buffalo Arms sell .360-.361 bullets about 150 gr. for the 38S&W which might be worth a trial.


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Statesrights Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 446 Location: Virginia Joined: May 3^rd, 2016	Re: .360 Rook Reply #5 - Feb 17^th, 2017 at 6:51pm	Print Post
	Thanks for the suggestions/feedback. Shot some .38 long colt (healed) that did fine. Some commercial .38 spl Wadcutters did fine as well. All offhand. This little cutie is not a bench gun, but did fine at 150 yards. I didn't think those cartridges would go that far. Only a "pop." Jim


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32 ballard xl Full Member Offline Stand on your hind legs, and shoot like a man. Posts: 129 Location: Akwesasne, New York Joined: Feb 20^th, 2011	Re: .360 Rook Reply #6 - Feb 18^th, 2017 at 3:32pm	Print Post
	Yeah, some of those "pipsqueek" cartridges can do well a lot farther away then we have been led to believe. One I saw on youtube was a Marlin 32-20 at 5-600 yards.

	Ballards are best!
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J.Francis Full Member Offline Posts: 170 Location: Pownal, Vermont Joined: Nov 20^th, 2011	Re: .360 Rook Reply #7 - Feb 19^th, 2017 at 6:30am	Print Post
	I used to have a Woodward Martini rook rifle that would shoot cloverleafs at 50 yards with factory 38 Long Colt ammo.Temporary poverty forced me to sell it and I've missed it ever since.


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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 861 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: .360 Rook Reply #8 - Mar 14^th, 2017 at 1:26am	Print Post
	I have this little Army/Navy tip-up rook marked ".360.#5.or .380". The groove diameter is .369. I use Hornady's swaged .38 hollow base wadcutters. I back them with 10 gr FFFg so they bump up to fill the bore. No leading, and they shoot to call offhand at 100 yards.

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sharps4590 Full Member Offline Posts: 120 Joined: Mar 24^th, 2016	Re: .360 Rook Reply #9 - Mar 14^th, 2017 at 8:09am	Print Post
	Smoke, your Army & Navy is a dead ringer for my Jeffery. I believe it's Collingwood in his "Rook & Rabbit Rifle" book credits most of that make of rifle to W.C. Scott, regardless of the name on the top rib. Good rifles and oh so cute. States, glad you got yours up and runnin'! Rook rifles are just cool. Mine will keep a 3 lb. coffee can very nervous out to 300 yards.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18095 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: .360 Rook Reply #10 - Mar 14^th, 2017 at 9:04am	Print Post
	32 ballard xl wrote on Feb 18^th, 2017 at 3:32pm: Yeah, some of those "pipsqueek" cartridges can do well a lot farther away then we have been led to believe. One I saw on youtube was a Marlin 32-20 at 5-600 yards. Like this. Couple friends of mine playing with their .32-20's: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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sharps4590 Full Member Offline Posts: 120 Joined: Mar 24^th, 2016	Re: .360 Rook Reply #11 - Mar 15^th, 2017 at 2:30pm	Print Post
	Oh come on....everyone knows you need at least a 300 Win. Mag at 3200 fps and a 24X scope to hit anything beyond 300 yards..... That kind of shooting is so much fun!!!!!!


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Huvius Junior Member Offline Posts: 74 Location: Wheat Ridge Joined: Apr 12^th, 2011	Re: .360 Rook Reply #12 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 12:59pm	Print Post
	It is a handsome little cartridge. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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ASIEGL Participating Member Offline Posts: 14 Joined: Mar 20^th, 2016	Re: .360 Rook Reply #13 - Mar 30^th, 2017 at 9:37am	Print Post
	Noticed your Rook bullet looks like my heeled 32-20 Cadet bullet; with the external lube grove you can't just put a handful in your pocket. Made this hand lubricator and die to lube as I shoot.


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Fred Boulton Oldtimer Offline Posts: 801 Joined: Jan 6^th, 2007	Re: .360 Rook Reply #14 - Mar 30^th, 2017 at 12:05pm	Print Post
	My heeled bullets just get tumbled in liquid alox. I find that with these short cases---I use 38 S&W long for .360 no 5---the low pressure can result in significant blow back, blackening the case and affecting the velocity. I don't re-size, just re-prime, add powder and pop the bullet in. The liquid alox is sufficient to hold the bullet in place. Fred


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