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Breech seating a Hepburn
Feb 2nd, 2017 at 2:55pm
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Hope somebody here is breech seating a Hepburn? I have a nice Match B I purchased at the Denver show last May, and I'm pretty much stuck breech seating for it, as the bore is very large! It's almost .325" for the .32-40 chamber, and bullets fixed wont even come close to chambering.
I've looked around at various sources, but didn't see any pictures of a breech seating tool for a Hepburn. I'll buy one if need be, but wouldn't be against building one if I could see some samples and determine if it's something I can tackle.
Or if you know of a source for a good breech seater, I might just purchase it there. Found this one on the internet. Does anyone recognize the maker?
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Re: Breech seating a Hepburn
Reply #1 - Feb 2nd, 2017 at 3:48pm
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Val I do not know who's seater that is but it does not appear to have very much if any mechanical advantage and something to consider if building one. Russ Weber would be a good chioce if you are just looking to purchase one.


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Reply #2 - Feb 2nd, 2017 at 4:12pm
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I'd guess about a 4or5 to 1 leverage gain. I don't understand how it fits into the action- but, I may be missing something obvious, like I do. It really is a well made tool in my eye.
  
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Reply #3 - Feb 2nd, 2017 at 4:28pm
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I had Russ Weber make me one. Works beautifully!
  
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Re: Breech seating a Hepburn
Reply #4 - Feb 2nd, 2017 at 4:42pm
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Vall, With a bullet that big that won't fit in a chamberable case,  you will have the same issues I have with my 33-47.  Your breach seater will be a push rod.  The Pope rifling has no throat, so mine has mechanical advantage and pushes off the rear sight base on  my Ballard.
  
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Reply #5 - Feb 2nd, 2017 at 4:42pm
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25/21 Hepburn with Weber breech seater.
  
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Reply #6 - Feb 2nd, 2017 at 4:45pm
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Twists in about 60deg and pushes off the block mortice. Clears scope nicely. VERY well thought out. Very sveldt little tool.
  
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Reply #7 - Feb 2nd, 2017 at 6:33pm
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Vall - if you don't see anything here that catches your fancy, talk to Steve Durren. He not only builds breech-seaters but is also a Hepburn Scheutzen shooter (38-40).
  
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Re: Breech seating a Hepburn
Reply #8 - Feb 2nd, 2017 at 7:06pm
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Thanks everyone for pictures, and tips! Will try to contact names mentioned, and see what is available!
I was pretty shocked when I slugged the bore on the Hepburn, as it's in perfect condition, so expected it to be typical size. Maybe it got over bored at some time? Haven't done a chamber cast yet, so not sure how it's throated. When I bought it I got the previous owner's phone number from Ron Peterson, but attempts to call and see how he shot it were futile, as he is extremely hard of hearing, and we got nowhere.
I'll also do a chamber cast and see if it's possibly throated for breech seating.
  
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Reply #9 - Feb 2nd, 2017 at 7:17pm
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Val send me a PM on your fixed bullet needs might be able to help so please provide some specifics as well such as twist, bore diameter, base size wanted etc.

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Reply #10 - Feb 2nd, 2017 at 8:27pm
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If its not thraoted for breech seating, just use a bullet that fits the throat.  My 33-47 has no throat. Thousands of bs bullets most hitting near center  Roll Eyes
  
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Re: Breech seating a Hepburn
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JLouis wrote on Feb 2nd, 2017 at 7:17pm:
Val send me a PM on your fixed bullet needs might be able to help so please provide some specifics as well such as twist, bore diameter, base size wanted etc.

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Thank you John! I will try to check it all, and maybe do a chamber cast also tomorrow!

  
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Schuetzenmiester wrote on Feb 2nd, 2017 at 8:27pm:
If its not thraoted for breech seating, just use a bullet that fits the throat.  My 33-47 has no throat. Thousands of bs bullets most hitting near center  Roll Eyes


Thanks. Have a Ballard Schuetzen not throated for breech seating, but shoots my .32 caliber Hudson bullet well when breech seated.
  
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Re: Breech seating a Hepburn
Reply #13 - Feb 3rd, 2017 at 6:57am
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Val,  Ken Meyer makes the one you have pictured.   I have one  and use it for all my #3's,  just change the case and plunger.  I breech seat from .32-30 to .40-90.    Still working on a bullet for the 32-40 B&M,  mine is oversized (.326)  too.   

Ken is   Quarter_Bore  here on the forum.

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Re: Breech seating a Hepburn
Reply #14 - Feb 3rd, 2017 at 7:17am
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I thought that looked like one of Ken's.   
  
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