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Re: Historical Pics of old German Schützenhouses
Reply #30 - Jan 30th, 2017 at 1:43pm
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marlinguy wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 3:33pm:
Thanks for the great post and pictures Biggi! 
It appears some of the shooting houses might have been large enough for shooters to have sleeping quarters? Did some provide overnight quarters?


Well, the downtown schützenhaus with restaurant and leisure events often had a hotel too. When the range was outside town the schützen-hotel/restaurant had a kind of "shuttle-service" with horse drawn carriage to bring shooters to the range. Later round the turn of the century with bus or maybe some tramway tracks were installed.

The main transportation means back then was the railway to travel from town to town. In the town, people walked by foot or - if available - they took the tramway.  But I bet the real rich guys had their own carriage with coachman.
  

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Reply #31 - Jan 30th, 2017 at 2:24pm
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Here I found an example, where the club had the schützenhaus (left) and the rangebuilding (right) on its postcard. Its located in the far east of Germany, close to the Polish border. Well, the picture is from 1903, back then it was nearly in the middle of the German Reich...

And a nice rhyme which I tried to translate for you!
  

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Reply #32 - Jan 30th, 2017 at 7:16pm
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This postcard must be from the mid/late 1920s, I think.
The title is "Neues Schützenhaus" = translated "New Shooting House".
So it seems this range went from town to the urban hinterland.
Ots located in the south west of Germany, near Stuttgart.

I tried to find more about it, found their website.
But they do not write much about their history, and just one pic of the building.
So I figured out on satellite maps that the range still exists ind the range is wellcared on duty.

  

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Reply #33 - Jan 31st, 2017 at 7:17am
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Biggi,

Thank you for this post, truly enjoyed the photos and the history.

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Reply #34 - Jan 31st, 2017 at 10:25am
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Thank you for taking the time to assemble and post those great shooting house images. I have been a member of this forum for over 10 years and yours is one of the very best threads on Schuetzen history ever to appear on this site. 
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Reply #35 - Jan 31st, 2017 at 4:40pm
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If any thread deserves to be a STICKY, this is the one!
Biggi - Thank You Sincerely for the great detail words supporting the pictures.  Thoroughly enjoyed reading the thread back from the beginning several times
  
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Reply #36 - Jan 31st, 2017 at 5:10pm
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Hi guys!

Thanks for all the plaudits for my thread! *smile*

If I would have known earlier that you are interested in the topic, I would have wrote it years ago...

...so I will go on digging in the archive to delight you with historical stuff!

[Even when my English is not that great...]

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Reply #37 - Jan 31st, 2017 at 7:13pm
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Here is another postcard dated 1903 . With the schützenhaus and the separate range building.

I tried to figure out what happened to this schützenhaus, but no track...

It was located in Saxony-Anhalt, close to Luther-Stadt WIttenberg. And they had the socialistic GDR regime from 1945/49-1989, where the traditional schützen clubs were forbidden. If the building survived WWI and WWII, it was used for something else after 1945, but for sure no schützen club.

All those traditional schützen clubs in east Germany (in the GDR) had to close after WWII. No shooting license, no guns in civil hands. The Sovjet occupying forces made the strict law. Shooting was just possible in the 1952 founded GST association. This was a pre-military organisation of the army. It was a governmental ruled mass organization "Sport and Technology Association", like shooting, motor sports, diving, radio. Only hard-liner socialists were allowed to join the GST shooting departments.

After the GDR broke down in 1989, the shooters founded new clubs, but nearly nothing with tradition. Mostly they couldn't get back their old buildings (if they still existed), because all was disappropriated and in governmental possession. 
I think some buildings survived and may still exist, as a company building, school, political club house or whatever.
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Reply #38 - Jan 31st, 2017 at 11:00pm
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Reply #39 - Feb 1st, 2017 at 5:56pm
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Dear readers, here is the next story!
Hope my English is okay... *smile*


Here is an interesting postcard of a so-called "Schützenhof Delitzsch" near Leipzig (former GDR).
With a longer research I could find out what happened to the building.

Huge building, erected 1890 and opened in 1891 with a big Schützenfest:
They had a parade, concerts in the park, a 3-day-match, and electric illumination by night.

The club was founded in 1697, when the researched information is correct.

Before they built the huge Schützenhof, they had a nice regular schützenhaus in the town.
The new building was located at the northern city limits.
Back then, the town had a population of approx. 9000 habitants.
So it must have been a real shooting enthusiastic town at that time.

All the town events and festivities took place in the new schützenhof.
They had a huge hall with stage, a smaller ballroom, a billiard room and a restaurant.
And for sure they had a range! 
You can find parts of the range hall on pics of the first and second postcard.
Must have been 20 firepoints or more.

In 1895 the club had approx. 75 members. And in the year 1897 they celebrated their 200-years-Jubilée.
It was a big event, other clubs showed up for the parade with their banner flags. And for sure they had a jubilée match.

Over the years they had a lot of society and business events, exhibitions, conventions, concerts, theater in the big halls of the Schützenhof. Shooters wirh their buildings were very honorable back then.
They enlarged the range in 1910/11 with long distance ranges on 300 and 175 meters, a pistol range and hunting targets. The restaurant and halls were renovated too.

In 1913 they run the "Provincial-Bundesschiessen" with 400 shooters and with a big parade.
About the years of WWI I couldn't find any information about shooting activities, but probably they had their weekly practice matches with military rifles - as öong as they were not soldiers at the gront line.
The annual schützen-fests were held in the 1920s again, after the inflation years.

In 1924 they renovated the range and celebrated an internal re-opening practice match.
With the renovated range they could organize again the big regional Provincial-Bundesschiessen. A lot of shooters showed up for the 6 day match. They could win 150 material prizes.
  

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Reply #40 - Feb 1st, 2017 at 5:57pm
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In 1927 they erected a "Kegelbahn" building with four alleys (German bowling alley) on the property of the Schützenhof. Looks like shooters were also kegler (bowling players) in this region, not just in Bavaria.

During the 1930s in the 3rd Reich, it seems it was there like everywhere in Germany. Traditional shooting turned into pre-military shooting, smallbore-matches, Nazi parades instead of the former social life. But the annual schützenfest in spring was held till 1943 with a kings match.
All the years the halls and rooms in the Schützenhof were used by the Nazis and their activities and festivities. Still in 1944 the SA organized a military match for German men, more than 1000 shooters showed up. The oldes was 82 years old, the youngest just 14 years old.

In April, the US troops entered the town from the west, but they didnt destroy much. The town was handed over peaceful to the US troops. After two days the US troops went further to the east to meet the Sovjet troops in Torgau at Elbe river. The remaining US staff installed a new anti-faschist town council after war was over May 9 in 1945. US forces stayed till end of June. But then the Sovjets came from east and occupied the town. Russians took over the administrative buildings for their own headquarter, the German governing mayor and his staff had to leave. 

The years after WWII were real terrible all over Germany. Most of the towns destroyed, refugees from everyhwere. They stuck also in this town, not enough buildings and houses to live in. Bad years.

But what happened to the Schützenhof? I bet they never shot again there. Already in 1946 it was re-named in "Karl-Marx-Haus". The communist party had their reunion with the socialists in the former Schützenhof. After the GDR was installed in 1949 in October, they used it as local hall for events. Till 1990 they had dance events and ballroom dancing and the restaurant was on duty till 1992. In 1993 they demolished the building and erected a new "citizen house".

So the glorius history of the "Schützengilde Delitzsch" ended with WWII in 1945 and the Schützenhof disappeared in 1993. Nothing left over, just some old postcards and a bit forgotten history. 

That's the story I could figure out.

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Reply #41 - Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:44pm
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All this German history, and memory of the meal you showed us a while back when you were here made me get hungry for some Bavarian atmosphere of my own. So, I took the wife to dinner at a  good German restaurant tonight. Oh, man, am I stuffed. Couldn't even eat the cake. Thanks my dear lady.
  
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Reply #42 - Feb 2nd, 2017 at 11:48am
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calledflyer wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:44pm:
All this German history, and memory of the meal you showed us a while back when you were here made me get hungry for some Bavarian atmosphere of my own. So, I took the wife to dinner at a  good German restaurant tonight. Oh, man, am I stuffed. Couldn't even eat the cake. Thanks my dear lady.



You have a German or Bavarian restaurant in town? Really? Great!  Cheesy
What did you eat there?

Well, it seems it's a "stimulation thread" to have German atmosphere...

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Reply #43 - Feb 2nd, 2017 at 12:03pm
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I want to add to the last post of the Schützenhof in Delitzsch:

The Schützengilde of Delitzsch was prohibited in 1945, like all schützen clubs back then. While the west Germans got back their traditional schützen life round 1950, the east Germans in GDR just had the chance to shoot in the GST (the pre-military organisation) and just in the "Olympic disciplines". No tradition at all.

Near the town of Delitzsch the socialists erected some shooting ranges for sportive competitive shooting in the 1950s. Those were in use till 1990, when the GDR reunited with Germany. 
In the same year, a new shooting club was established, and they took over the name of the traditional "Schützengilde Delitzsch". They erected a new shooting place on the property of an old airport in the region.
Their website doesn't show anything traditional, concerning to the old Schützengilde or the history of the old "Schützenhof".
  

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Not really in my town, but there are three within an hour. They each have their charms. Last nite we went to the one with the very best bakery, and that was a mistake because I really did want a piece of gingerbread with the best whipped cream in the world or a piece of black forest cake. Couldn't do it, though, because the soup, Schnitzel and potato pancake and spaetzle and veggies and hard rolls did me in. Wife had saurbraten and all the trimmings. Good stuff. Next time I'll get something different and love it too. Couple times a year for us.
If I ever come to Germany I won't do any shooting because I'll be too busy eating.... Mustard, hot potato salad, wurst, bread, that fried saurkraut, ten kinds of schnitzel. What else ya got?
  
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