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Reply #15 - Jan 13th, 2017 at 10:39pm
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Thanks gents for all your insight and info. Much appreciated.
  
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Reply #16 - Jan 13th, 2017 at 10:46pm
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My take on it is exactly the same as Slumlord's. Every feature and marking screams post-Savage-takeover, but it's a 44 1/2.   It ought not to exist, but there it is.......  Treasure it.  It might be the only one.
  

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Reply #17 - Jan 14th, 2017 at 1:20pm
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My 25-35 was marked same way. Serial number 12,xxx. X's because I cannot remember rest of number. I have a picture somewhere of the stamp. Moodyholler
  
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Reply #18 - Jan 15th, 2017 at 9:41am
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After WWI into the 1930s Colt would sometimes get out some older parts, and assemble some guns during slow times, to sell.  There was a run of New Services like that, parts from WWI, but refinished and used much later. 

Just because a catalog doesn't list a gun, doesn't mean Stevens didn't have some parts they occasionally assembled and finished.  There are many reasons for this, including cleaning out space, making a gun for a retiring official or employee, doing a favor for a customer request, etc.  There are many "non catalog" items in the gun world.
  
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Reply #19 - Jan 15th, 2017 at 10:10am
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Winchester is said to have done that, too.

In my survey of Stevens Model 44s and derivatives, I have found a couple without the markings typical of the Savage era, but with serial numbers that are certainly post-takeover.
  

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Reply #20 - Jan 15th, 2017 at 10:17am
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uscra112 wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 10:10am:
Winchester is said to have done that, too.


Winchester did a lot of it!  Never scrapping any usable part that could be recycled even 20 yrs after it was originally made.   
  
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Reply #21 - Jan 19th, 2017 at 9:42am
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Can anyone here imagine even just the capability of a manufacturer to assemble fuctioning obsolete items from parts inventory in this era of instant obsolesence and dismal service? 

Progress!

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Reply #22 - Jan 19th, 2017 at 11:18am
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I can imagine a manufacturer throwing away inventory, simply because it's a tax liability.  My own employer was tossing $5000 Hewlett Packard line printers in the dumpster for just that reason.  I still have one.  New In Box.
  

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Re: Intro and new to me ol' 44 1/2
Reply #23 - Jan 19th, 2017 at 12:37pm
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In this day and age, I can easily imagine manufacturers scrapping out all sorts of valuable parts. But that certainly wasn't the case 100 years ago! In fact it wasn't the case 50 years ago! 
When Marlin moved their manufacturing plant in the late 1960's, the employees found Ballard parts still stuffed in corners from the 1880's and before! And 100 years or more ago, the manufacturers assembled guns from parts that were around the plant, even after those models were obsolete. In the early 1920's Marlin had a bunch of musket receivers from their failed attempt to sell 1894 Muskets to police, National Guard, and other government agencies. The trigger plates had a lug cast into the trigger plate that was cross drilled for a sling loop. Marlin decided to use these trigger plates, and simply ground the lug off. But it left half of the sling loop hole, and thus a groove crossways on the trigger plate. The solution was to sell the assembled guns as "seconds" for $1 less, rather than toss out the parts. They sent flyers to dealers offering these guns at the reduced price, and today collectors are still puzzled when they discover a Model '94 Marlin with that groove cut in the trigger plate!
  

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