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Longdistance1 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 429 Location: Amidon, ND Joined: Feb 11^th, 2013	Re: D. S. Cole rifle Reply #15 - Jan 13^th, 2017 at 2:07am	Print Post
	Front of breechblock


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Longdistance1 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 429 Location: Amidon, ND Joined: Feb 11^th, 2013	Re: D. S. Cole rifle Reply #16 - Jan 13^th, 2017 at 2:09am	Print Post
	Rear of breechblock showing transfer bar.


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broken_arrow Full Member Offline Posts: 202 Location: Lancaster County Joined: Aug 12^th, 2008	Re: D. S. Cole rifle Reply #17 - Jan 13^th, 2017 at 9:09am	Print Post
	All the pics and info are really helping me get deeper into this project. Thanks, Dave

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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3541 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: D. S. Cole rifle Reply #18 - Jan 13^th, 2017 at 12:07pm	Print Post
	That nub on the upper rear of the block looks like it would keep the thumb from having much purchase on the hammer. Lowering the hammer to half cock, or final cocking if it doesn't go there on its own, would be uncomfortable. Or even risky. Just my opinion.


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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2032 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: D. S. Cole rifle Reply #19 - Jan 13^th, 2017 at 1:29pm	Print Post
	LD1, The detent that holds the lever at battery? That is interesting, I copied the spring from the original patent drawing and with considerable cussing made it work. Is the casting drilled and tapped directly below the barrel threads for this? I think I can picture where and it would work well. When you have a little time would you post or PM me a view of this. Greg Calledflyer, The nub on the rear of the block cocks the hammer, the original didn't have a hammer spur, Rodney cast his hammers with a spur and it works well, both for cocking and lowering the hammer to half cock. When making these actions, the nub and the hammer both have to be hardened in this area or they gall - ask me how I know this... Greg

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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3541 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: D. S. Cole rifle Reply #20 - Jan 13^th, 2017 at 4:19pm	Print Post
	Ah, now I see how that works. I think. Anyhow, I'm happy to hear that it isn't as much of a problem as I was thinking. I'd prefer having one, even if it [u]were[u] awkward, I guess.


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KWK Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 401 Location: USA Joined: Jul 12^th, 2004	Re: D. S. Cole rifle Reply #21 - Jan 13^th, 2017 at 11:52pm	Print Post
	broken_arrow, the originals didn't have the transfer bar or firing pin bushing seen on the modern example belonging to Longdistance1. If you're comfortable shooting old guns in which the firing pin is retained solely by a cross pin, this action can be simplified further. Cole's patent didn't show or mention the need to carefully fit the top of the hammer and the bottom of the cocking cam. Similar to a Borchardt, it's important the cam begin to move the hammer off the firing pin immediately. In Cole's day, I think the fat firing pins could be dragged off the spent primer, but not today. The originals dispensed with even a firing pin retraction spring.

	Karl
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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2032 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: D. S. Cole rifle Reply #22 - Jan 14^th, 2017 at 12:54am	Print Post
	Here's a picture of the patent drawing showing the hammer without the spur as I mentioned. It is really a simple but effective action, here's a couple early shots of the block and hammer on one I've done.

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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3541 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: D. S. Cole rifle Reply #23 - Jan 14^th, 2017 at 1:37pm	Print Post
	It's easy to see the need for hardened parts in that action, with its method of cocking. Sure is nice looking work you're doing on yours GT.


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Longdistance1 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 429 Location: Amidon, ND Joined: Feb 11^th, 2013	Re: D. S. Cole rifle Reply #24 - Jan 14^th, 2017 at 1:49pm	Print Post
	Here is a pic of the right side and the spring,detent and plug screw. There isn't a detent hole in the lever at this time. The detent hole is positioned .600 back from the front face of action and .250 above bottom of action, both center of hole. Hope this helps you. Later LD1


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broken_arrow Full Member Offline Posts: 202 Location: Lancaster County Joined: Aug 12^th, 2008	Re: D. S. Cole rifle Reply #25 - Jan 20^th, 2017 at 9:39am	Print Post
	Thanks to everyone for the great info and pics. Now (with the help of a member here) I have a kit on the way. The spark has grown to a fire. I can't wait to shoot this rifle. Thanks again, Dave

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