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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7674 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Small differences - casting. Reply #60 - Jan 5^th, 2017 at 8:27pm	Print Post
	JLouis wrote on Jan 5^th, 2017 at 7:49pm: I believe I shot with John Stewart at the 2006 Nationals. If it is the same fellow he shot to the right of me and a very nice gentleman. When you say John is winning allot of matches what are his scores? Winning is dependent on the competition and the number of individuals shooting the match and by not knowing it could just be a false indicator to the success of the alloy being used. An example would be there a is club posting scores with an average of from two to four shooting the any sight score matches. Some of the scores are quite low and not a true indication of the average scores being shot by other clubs. So one should be aware of who is providing the direction if one wants to achieve National Match success and thus my question. I tried to look it up on the CBA Web site and they seem to have improved it and now I can't find the current scores or those from years past and it used to be quite simple? JLouis All I know is that the PNW has very able shooters in all classes but, are short on Milsurp shooters. I saw perfect 100 yard scores and high 190's for 200. I try to forward your question to him so you might get a more accurate and direct answer from John. Frank

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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Small differences - casting. Reply #61 - Jan 5^th, 2017 at 9:58pm	Print Post
	JLouis wrote on Jan 5^th, 2017 at 7:49pm: Winning is dependent on the competition and the number of individuals shooting the match and by not knowing it could just be a false indicator to the success of the alloy being used. JLouis Winners usually have to shoot in the 390s because 2nd place usually does

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7674 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Small differences - casting. Reply #62 - Jan 6^th, 2017 at 12:13am	Print Post
	JLouis wrote on Jan 5^th, 2017 at 8:52pm: Best I could pull off was a 398 100 - 200yd. agg. but don't remember how many X's. JLouis You know what they say, practice, practice, practice. Frank

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40_Rod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Extremism in the persuit of accuracy is not a vice Posts: 4285 Location: Knoxville, TN Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: Small differences - casting. Reply #63 - Jan 6^th, 2017 at 8:46am	Print Post
	The more I practice the luckier I get 40 Rod


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Small differences - casting. Reply #64 - Jan 6^th, 2017 at 12:19pm	Print Post
	The more out of the box thinking and testing I did the luckier I got. JLouis

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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3993 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Small differences - casting. Reply #65 - Jan 6^th, 2017 at 1:55pm	Print Post
	John, that's just another way of saying "I practice a lot". You did get that huge amount of shots off, and powder burnt while practicing, most would agree.


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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3993 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Small differences - casting. Reply #66 - Jan 6^th, 2017 at 3:59pm	Print Post
	Joe, you divide the number of shots, by the number of 250s, factor in the wind on the day you do your calculation and add the temperature on the day you were born. If the answer is over 100, it's good. Clear? If your answer is below 50 or 60 you need to go higher than ten grains per shot. Or, shoot with somebody else next to you. I learned this by thinking out of the box.


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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3987 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Small differences - casting. Reply #67 - Jan 6^th, 2017 at 5:26pm	Print Post
	CLEARLY thinking outside the box. Good job!

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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3993 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Small differences - casting. Reply #68 - Jan 6^th, 2017 at 9:15pm	Print Post
	With a score like that on the "is it good" scale, you clearly need about twelve more cans of that powder. Maybe lay in a few primers. Soon you'll have as many 250s as you can stuff in yer glovebox. Take a sandwich when you start shooting 'em- you'll get hungry 'fore ya finish shooting 'em all. I normally get a score in the low forties- but, I've never shot a 250.


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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3993 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Small differences - casting. Reply #69 - Jan 6^th, 2017 at 11:14pm	Print Post
	No, no, it's really good; the best I've seen. I was just reporting my low score is due to a lack of 250s and the fact that I was born on a cold day. And, I don't shoot very good according to some guy that hasn't ever met me. I was just suggesting you get to shooting all that powder to rack up a bunch more high scores.


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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Small differences - casting. Reply #70 - Jan 7^th, 2017 at 1:40am	Print Post
	Joe, How about running my 250 potential through your calculator?

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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Small differences - casting. Reply #71 - Jan 7^th, 2017 at 2:13am	Print Post
	westerner wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 2:08am: Talk to Helen, she runs the numbers at your place, ha ha. Joe. Not much potential. She runs the numbers pretty tight. Won't budge even when she is wrong

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don1885 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 386 Location: East Tennessee Joined: Oct 31^st, 2010	Re: Small differences - casting. Reply #72 - Jan 7^th, 2017 at 9:30am	Print Post
	Hey folks, if you are reading this thread wear rubber gloves and a mask - these guys have "Cabin Fever" BAD!

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Small differences - casting. Reply #73 - Jan 7^th, 2017 at 7:49pm	Print Post
	I find it interesting in how a couple of individuals can turn a very postive learning topic into a worthless and meaningless piece of C __P as they always seem to be capable of doing. This site has not provided anything positive for more Months than I can count and as soon as it does they always seem to find a way to Kill it! You folks should be very proud of your accomplisments one being in his 70's and the other probably pushing it if not already there. Take a break and take some time to pat yourselves on the back for all of the positive information you continuly take the time to share as I am sure all of the new folks here who are eager to learn highly appreciate all of your continued on going efforts. Don this does not in any way include you nor does it most of the others as those I speak of fully know who they are as do the others here on this site. Hopefully they are as sick of it as I am and have the backbone to also speak their peace.
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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7674 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Small differences - casting. Reply #74 - Jan 7^th, 2017 at 9:06pm	Print Post
	OK, John, let's get it back on topic. Tell why a small case, shooting the longest nosed spitzer, cast from 40/1, isn't able to win a match or be competive. Inquiring minds would like to know why it's not possible and why it has been winning matches. Is it because us PNW shooters are so poor at shooting matches that anything can win a match and Jon S is just lucky? Frank

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