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Re: Long Range Shooting: Buttstock vernier sights
Reply #15 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:47pm
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I'm a chicken shooter. I love my toes  Grin  I always shot with the the muzzle out front and loaded with the rifle on my lap with the muzzle in front of them too  Grin  I don't trust the angles, any of the angles Roll Eyes
  

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Reply #16 - Jan 4th, 2017 at 3:51pm
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chawk wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 8:45am:

2)Can anyone tell me what kind of shooting was done off of your back?  I'd like to look up its history and use but I don't even know what to call it so I don't know where to start.


I have an overview/history of the (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) illustrated with 19th century images and photographs of modern riflemen. The uncredited pic posted by marlinguy above is one of mine.

There were/are many variants of the back position and both heel and tang sights were used. In the 19thC this was at a time when no artificial support was allowed (including slings, wrist rests, cross-sticks). The back position gave a more stable platform for many rather than shooting in the prone unsupported position.

One gentleman I knew who shot into his 90s said he could take recoil fine from the back position but wasn't able to shoot prone.

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Reply #17 - Jan 4th, 2017 at 4:41pm
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Wow!  That was a great read and very informative.  The pictures and the descriptions of the many different poses are interesting and thought provoking, apparently there are many different ways to skin a cat. 

dbm: Thanks for your help and insight.
  
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Reply #18 - Jan 4th, 2017 at 6:56pm
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I shot Pistol silhouette for a few years  with a 14 inch contender in 357 Herrett.   mostly in a modified Creedmoor position.   then one of my cousins offered me his buntline-barreled Ruger Super Blackhawk to try in one match.   I completely forgot about the gap between the cylinder and the forcing cone of the barrel breech-------for the first shot.    Shocked  I wound up with some powder and lead tattooing that eventually faded with the years.    I stuck with the Contender Roll Eyes
  

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Reply #19 - Jan 4th, 2017 at 8:01pm
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Those of us that shot revolvers in that position wore hard leather, or similar "fender", mud flaps or whatever one decided to call 'em.
Even saw some use wraps of duct tape over cardboard. Slap hell out ya though, didn't it?
  
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Reply #20 - Jan 4th, 2017 at 8:20pm
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CF,
In Handgun Silhouette, I used the front panel from a Second Chance ballistic kevlar Vest inside a cover made from vinyl
upholstry. The vinyl was a replaceable sacrificial cover that got gradually shredded by the M29 cylinder flash. But my leg was fine. 
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Reply #21 - Jan 4th, 2017 at 10:57pm
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I started with a hard rubber one, but went to a hard leather when I could. Rubber was sometimes accused of being against the rules. Said it was an aid to holding. It wasn't. 
I worked at a place where I could get full sized targets burnt. Just couple of years ago my sister took them and used 'em in her garden after painting 'em up all fancy. Eighteen targets.  About 400 pounds of 'em.
.41 Ruger with a lot of tuning. Then, an xp in 7-08. That one was a pain in the rear.
  
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Re: Long Range Shooting: Buttstock vernier sights
Reply #22 - Jan 19th, 2017 at 8:20am
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The flat bottomed piece of wood in front of the receiver is called a riser block; modern target rifles like Walthers and Anschutz provide them for offhand shooting. New riser blocks have a rubber pad to rest the finger tips or knuckles on; old ones generally used cork.
  
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