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25 basic brass loads
Nov 29th, 2016 at 8:32pm
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Wondering what sort of loads I can make with this with factory dies?
  
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Reply #1 - Nov 29th, 2016 at 8:42pm
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What are you talking about?
  
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Reply #2 - Nov 29th, 2016 at 8:47pm
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If I buy 25 basic brass to chamber something based on that case, what options do I have?
  
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Reply #3 - Nov 29th, 2016 at 11:08pm
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28/20 Rabbath, 25/20SS & 22/3000 and a few variations of it. You could even make your own wildcat of 270 or 6.5mm.

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Reply #4 - Nov 30th, 2016 at 9:18am
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If you straightened the case, it would make the .32 Extra Long, .32 Long Rifle, the .32 Long or the .32 Short, depending on trim length.
  
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Reply #5 - Nov 30th, 2016 at 3:25pm
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From what I saw, 25 basic is a rimmed, straight wall case.  Since I would like to approximate the 25 stevens or there abouts for squirrel and rabbit, where do I buy dies for the basic brass?
  
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Reply #6 - Nov 30th, 2016 at 3:36pm
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Nessmuk wrote on Nov 30th, 2016 at 3:25pm:
From what I saw, 25 basic is a rimmed, straight wall case.  Since I would like to approximate the 25 stevens or there abouts for squirrel and rabbit, where do I buy dies for the basic brass?


I think the 22 Hornet, would better serve that roll. The 25 Hornet has been around for a while and there are probably dies available.

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Reply #7 - Nov 30th, 2016 at 11:24pm
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The base diameter of .25 basic is a much larger dia. and much longer than .25 stevens.
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Reply #8 - Dec 1st, 2016 at 12:33am
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Nessmuk wrote on Nov 30th, 2016 at 3:25pm:
From what I saw, 25 basic is a rimmed, straight wall case.  Since I would like to approximate the 25 stevens or there abouts for squirrel and rabbit, where do I buy dies for the basic brass?


CH4-D will probably have what you're looking for.
  
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Reply #9 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:35pm
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Then can I turn the rims down, trim, and get 25 Stevens?
I am looking for a BP center fire for use similar to 22lr.  I want a straight wall.
  
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Nessmuk wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:35pm:
Then can I turn the rims down, trim, and get 25 Stevens?
I am looking for a BP center fire for use similar to 22lr.  I want a straight wall.


I'm not sure what you getting at. The Hornet cases will get you a better 25 Stevens cartridge, dimensionally, than using a 25/20 size case head. Easier to come by, too.

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Reply #11 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:25pm
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I want a straight wall, 25cal for similar uses as 22lr.  I want to use the basic brass because it is straight wall and suitable for single shot extractors.
  
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Reply #12 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 8:25pm
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That's why we are suggesting the Hornet. Its a shorter and smaller case and will have about .020 less taper.

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Re: 25 basic brass loads
Reply #13 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 8:41pm
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First of all, what is .25 Basic brass?  Never hoid of it.  

Cue  Chev_William, who has been fooling with this for a couple of years now.   

.25 Stevens is a rimfire round.  I assume you want a centerfire version?  I believe Chev_William was somehow using .25 ACP dies.  Starting with Hornet brass, I think.  This whole project never lit my imagination on fire.

What is your chamber going to be?  A straight cylinder?  What diameter?  How will it be throated?

Edit:  The penny dropped!   Are you looking at the .25-20 Basic case that Captech makes?  I am holding one in my formerly nicotine-stained fingers.  The O.D. is .314".  The I.D. at the mouth is .290.   As such, it is approximately a straight walled 7mm case.   A practicable centerfire .25 Stevens would be about .275 O.D.    A Hornet case (also held in my formerly nicotinous digits), is .292" O.D. at the base.   Lots and lots easier to reduce to a nominal .275, eh?

CH4D does have dies labelled .25 Stevens, but they assume you will be using a .251 bullet (same as .25 ACP).  So you're going to have to find a .250-groove barrel, or reline one, to use those dies.   To say that they are spendy is putting it mildly.

That's as far as I can take you.  After that it's Chev_William's turn.
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Reply #14 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 12:22pm
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This one is the one I am thinking of.
  
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