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tbird1960 Senior Forum Member Offline He shoulda armed himself. Posts: 331 Location: Brazoria, Texas Joined: Aug 14^th, 2006	Ballard 22 Nov 15^th, 2016 at 12:20pm	Print Post
	A friend of mine just got this 22 and we are looking for any information we can find on it. It has JFK jr engraved on the side and has a model 52 Winchester barrel on it. Maybe possible it belonged to the late John F. Kennedy jr. Thanks for any info you can provide.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16022 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Ballard 22 Reply #1 - Nov 15^th, 2016 at 3:59pm	Print Post
	Probably not, since it's engraved "JKF" not "JFK". Doesn't look like any factory engraving I've ever seen, but certainly is done in very high quality European style. Is it a JM Marlin Marked, or Marlin Firearms Co. marked Ballard? The latter would date it after 1881.

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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Ballard 22 Reply #2 - Nov 15^th, 2016 at 4:41pm	Print Post
	Great gun! Did you consider changing your initials? Aaron

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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Ballard 22 Reply #3 - Nov 15^th, 2016 at 4:58pm	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 3:59pm: certainly is done in very high quality European style... Germans & Austrians (including their descendants in this country) were the ones who especially loved oak leaves & other carving.


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.22Hepburn Oldtimer Offline Posts: 803 Location: Pennsylvania Joined: Feb 18^th, 2008	Re: Ballard 22 Reply #4 - Nov 15^th, 2016 at 5:13pm	Print Post
	Did you take the fore arm off yet to see if there's anything marked on the bottom of the barrel. This looks like a very high quality build, might have some info on who built it/when. This reminds me of some of the Arthur Hubalek Ballards that oak leaf carving on the stocks.


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Ballard 22 Reply #5 - Nov 15^th, 2016 at 7:24pm	Print Post
	.22Hepburn wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 5:13pm: ...This reminds me of some of the Arthur Hubalek Ballards that oak leaf carving on the stocks. Yes, but screwing in a 52 barrel? Not likely.


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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2917 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: Ballard 22 Reply #6 - Nov 15^th, 2016 at 7:29pm	Print Post
	Dave's (40-82Ballard) Ballard with a Model 52 barrel shoots pretty well. We aren't sure who built it, but they did a good job.

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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Ballard 22 Reply #7 - Nov 15^th, 2016 at 8:28pm	Print Post
	SSShooter wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 7:29pm: Dave's (40-82Ballard) Ballard with a Model 52 barrel shoots pretty well. We aren't sure who built it, but they did a good job. Don't doubt it--52 barrels were first choice of folks in the '20s & '30s looking for a factory-made match-quality .22 barrel blank. Actually, Hubalek probably had a supply of 52 brls in his shop that he'd taken off customer's guns to replace with one of his own. Would be very interesting to know how much better one of his, or Pope's, or Johnson's, performed under the conditions of small-bore competition, as opposed to machine-rest. Have a feeling the advantage of a custom brl may have been more psychological than actual, but many shooters obviously believed otherwise, if they were willing to discard a perfectly good 52 brl.


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tbird1960 Senior Forum Member Offline He shoulda armed himself. Posts: 331 Location: Brazoria, Texas Joined: Aug 14^th, 2006	Re: Ballard 22 Reply #8 - Nov 15^th, 2016 at 8:36pm	Print Post
	According to the rules for monogramming the last initial is in the middle.

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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2826 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: Ballard 22 Reply #9 - Nov 15^th, 2016 at 9:19pm	Print Post
	I tried the initials J.F.K. Jr. in the Ancestry.com search engine. Got 4.2 million hits. Would we assume that it is from the 20s or 30s?


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Ballard 22 Reply #10 - Nov 15^th, 2016 at 11:25pm	Print Post
	waterman wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 9:19pm: Would we assume that it is from the 20s or 30s? Yes...the great heyday of small-bore competition.


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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2826 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: Ballard 22 Reply #11 - Nov 16^th, 2016 at 2:16am	Print Post
	If you were commissioning a high-end Ballard remodel in the between-the-wars period, the person for whom the rifle was made was likely 30 or 40 years old, or older. Probably not made for some kid, who would have wanted the newest, not a redone Ballard. Perhaps born about 1890 to 1900? That takes it down to 600,000 hits.


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bnice Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1845 Location: Iowa Joined: Nov 30^th, 2006	Re: Ballard 22 Reply #12 - Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:24am	Print Post
	Any idea the region of the country this came from?


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Jeff_Schultz ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1600 Location: Ransomville, NY Joined: Apr 25^th, 2004	Re: Ballard 22 Reply #13 - Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:25am	Print Post
	tbird1960 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 8:36pm: According to the rules for monogramming the last initial is in the middle. Yes, that's true but, it would be larger than the first and middle on either side.

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.22Hepburn Oldtimer Offline Posts: 803 Location: Pennsylvania Joined: Feb 18^th, 2008	Re: Ballard 22 Reply #14 - Nov 16^th, 2016 at 9:19am	Print Post
	"Dave's (40-82Hepburn) Ballard with a Model 52 barrel shoots pretty well. We aren't sure who built it, but they did a good job". Actually I have two Ballards with Winchester 52 barrels. One was built in the early 1930s. It was built for a man who shot it in competition in the 30s and 40s and was given to my father in 1950. The other is of unknown origin, but a high quality build. This one has a palm rest, adjustable hooked buttplate (similar to a Freeland), speed-locked, spring-loaded mechanism that holds the lever at 90 degree position when breech is open, adjustable trigger/over travel, and custom hammer and trigger. Plus it will shoot 1/2" 100 yd groups.


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