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Uberti Bore Sizes
Nov 7th, 2016 at 6:13pm
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I had an opportunity to pick up a couple Uberti High Walls without braking the bank.  After slugging the bores, I was surprised to see they were larger than expected.  One, a 38-55 measured 0.384 and another 40-65 measured 0.410.  Has anyone else found this with Uberti's?   
The 40-65 may not be a problem, but the 38-55 is another issue.  Not sure if I should have a custom mold made or maybe have it lined to a smaller bore.
Any thoughts are appreciated.
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Reply #1 - Nov 7th, 2016 at 6:22pm
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Uberti DST 38-55:
371-378, 1:12 - single trigger pull 12oz - Set trigger less 2oz
I highly doubt the groove is 384
  
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Reply #2 - Nov 7th, 2016 at 6:54pm
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JOhn Boy, you probably have the Pedersoli barreled 12 twist
"Uberti" , which is specified per collaboration with Dan T
at a 378 groove dia .
4570Mike,
If that big you have a "regular" Uberti, whic are notorious for 
oversize groove dia. A friend has a 405 W Uberti, way over
groove at about 0.415
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Reply #3 - Nov 7th, 2016 at 7:45pm
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Uberti DST 38-55:
371-378, 1:12 - single trigger pull 12oz - Set trigger less 2oz
I highly doubt the groove is 384

Yes, it's 0.384 and not 1:12 but 1:16.
  
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Reply #4 - Nov 7th, 2016 at 8:55pm
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Well, lets try this. My Uberti, which is 15 or so years old, was built to the original specs apparently. The Ideal Hand Book of Reloading Ammunition, Number 34 (1940), lists in its table "Groove Diameters & Twist of Rifling of American Rifles" this for the 38-55: groove diameter min .379, max .3795 and twist 18. My (measured) rifle's groove is .379 and the twist is ta-da! 18. I recommend NEI 379245 mold. I suppose that I should add that my Browning BPCR 40-65's groove is .410. And the Ideal table for the 405 Win shows .413 to .4135 so .415 is not terribly over.
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Reply #5 - Nov 7th, 2016 at 8:59pm
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Correction  Embarrassed ... the Uberti 38-55 twist is 1:18
  
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Reply #6 - Nov 8th, 2016 at 10:18pm
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My Uberti High wall has a bore of .382 and I have a number of custom molds from Accurate molds, double cavity for under $100, will drop bullets the size you specify with the alloy you specify. If you are getting a good price on the rifle, a few extra dollars for a custom mold is not a big deal, in my opinion. How much were you planning on spending for a mold, and what is the extra price for a custom mold?  The 38-250J, 38-300J and 38- 315J   Accurate molds are basically the Saeco style but without the taper. Joe S
  
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Reply #7 - Nov 9th, 2016 at 12:35pm
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Joe_S wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 10:18pm:
My Uberti High wall has a bore of .382 and I have a number of custom molds from Accurate molds, double cavity for under $100, will drop bullets the size you specify with the alloy you specify. If you are getting a good price on the rifle, a few extra dollars for a custom mold is not a big deal, in my opinion. How much were you planning on spending for a mold, and what is the extra price for a custom mold?  The 38-250J, 38-300J and 38- 315J   Accurate molds are basically the Saeco style but without the taper. Joe S

Thanks, Joe_S; that's what I was looking for.
I'll look into these molds.  BTW, which one shoots best for you? 
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Reply #8 - Nov 9th, 2016 at 7:53pm
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So far, the 300 gr is doing pretty good, got some tipping with the 315 gr bullets, and some good results with the 250 also. I ended up using the 250 with 4227 for offhand and the 315gr bullets for benchrest with M&P 300 powder. However, a few weeks ago I re-ran some tests with IMR 4759 and got some promising results. Unfortunately, the shooting season is almost over  so I probably will not be able to finish my testing till next spring but it looks like I will be using the 300 gr bullet for benchrest next year, with either M&P 300 or IMR 4759. 4759 is discontinued but I have a healthy supply. IMR 4227 is a popular powder also. 
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Reply #9 - Nov 10th, 2016 at 10:15pm
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I am consistently getting the diameter I need with my Accurate Molds, however, if you buy one, you might want to specify a diameter one or two thousands over bore size to make sure that temperature and alloy variances don't put you under the size you need. Has not been a problem for me but I think I did specify a slightly larger diameter for at least one of my molds.
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Reply #10 - Nov 11th, 2016 at 5:35pm
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Joe_S wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 10:15pm:
I am consistently getting the diameter I need with my Accurate Molds, however, if you buy one, you might want to specify a diameter one or two thousands over bore size to make sure that temperature and alloy variances don't put you under the size you need. Has not been a problem for me but I think I did specify a slightly larger diameter for at least one of my molds.
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Again, thanks for your input JoeS.  I have ordered an Accurate mold. Another question; I needed to specify a diameter for the nose portion.  I measured the bore to be 0.375 from a slug and specified this for the nose; do you think I should reduse it by a thou?
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Reply #11 - Nov 11th, 2016 at 6:25pm
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I do not recall specifying the diameter of the nose portion. I am sure it was not an option for the molds that I ordered. If you have a long nose that rides on the lands, the diameter has to be just perfect, if its too big it wont chamber and if its too small you defeat the purpose of the long nose. Not sure what you should do. 
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Reply #12 - Nov 12th, 2016 at 9:28am
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I had a similar problem with a Pedersoli Hi Wall i bought a couple of years ago , i had  also bought a Lyman 378-674 mould to use with the rifle but it didn't shoot too well  so i slugged the bore and it measured .3805 .After asking for advice on the forum i had  Tom at Accurate moulds  make mould #382310E in his catalogue also i had Leo Bumphrey make me a similar mould both are tapered designs for breech seating both shoot very well and i would recommend either. G40
  
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Reply #13 - Nov 12th, 2016 at 10:53am
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Mike- are you referring to the nose portion of the bullet or the body? Which design are you ordering? the 38-250J, 38-300J and 38-315J are all designs based on the Saeco bullet with a very short nose. I am not saying you should not order another design, but I think a long nose adds complications that you do not need. Just my opinion
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Reply #14 - Nov 12th, 2016 at 1:52pm
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Well that answers a question that has plagued me for years.  Why does my Cimarron .45/70 have a .460 bore diameter.  It shoots .460 cast bullets great.  It key holes .457 and .458 jacketed or cast.  I have no complaints with the rifle after I slugged the bore.
  
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