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Sep 18th, 2016 at 9:06pm
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I’ve experimented a good bit with various cleaning methods & solutions.  The methods are discussed in an article I posted some time ago ( (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) More recently I’ve tried some cleaning solution with ceramic media in a Thumlers Tumbler Model B with the general results noted below.  

Lemi Shine powder dishwashing detergent booster - Found at grocery stores, Walmart, Amazon.com, etc.  $5 to $6 for a 12 oz bottle.
I tried it with & without a squirt of Dawn detergent.  When comparing the results with other solution it did not work very well with or without the Dawn.  I don’t remember the Lemi Shine to water amounts but I tried a few different concentrations.

Strat-O-Sheen powder burnishing solution – 5 lbs available from (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) for $26.25 + 12.45 shipping.  Figuring 3 oz per tumbler comes out to 27 cleanings at $1.43/cleaning.
I used 3 oz to 1 gal of water and tried it with & without a squirt of Dawn detergent.  It worked OK without the Dawn, but with a squirt of Dawn it worked great.  The cases were cleaned fast & they came out very clean and shinny, including the primer pockets.

Dave Maurer’s Shooter 2 liquid cleaning/polishing compound – Available from Shiloh Sharps ( (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)) or directly from Dave Maurer (517-669-9801), dkittydave@aol.com.  About a year ago I purchased two 1-quart bottles from Dave for $30 + $12.65 shipping.  Shiloh’s price for 2 quarts is $34.00 + $17.16 shipping.  Figuring 1/2 oz per tumbler comes out to a little over $0.33/cleaning
Works great using 1 teaspoon (1/2 oz) of the concentrated solution per tumbler.  I’d rate it almost as effective as the Strat-O-Sheen/Dawn & is a little easier to use.

Scrubbing Bubbles liquid bathroom cleaner – Found at grocery stores, Walmart, Amazon.com, etc.  $4 to $6 for a 32 oz bottle.
I have not tried it but read reports from others that it works great when using 1 oz or so in a tumbler – Found at grocery stores, Walmart, Amazon.com, etc.  $4 to $6 for a 32 oz bottle.

Having run out of room here, see further comments below.

Wayne
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Reply #1 - Sep 18th, 2016 at 9:07pm
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I have about 4 lbs of Strat-O-Sheen remaining and almost two full bottles of Dave Maurer’s cleaner, so I probably won’t be experimenting with anything else until running out of these.  Based on the per cleaning price I do not plan on buying any more Strat-O-Sheen & will most likely stick to using Dave Maurer’s solution.  But I may pick up a bottle of Scrubbing Bubbles to see if it works as well as Dave’s solution.  Although price is not the major decision factor, it would be the cheapest solution if it works as well.

No doubt there are other differing opinions and other solutions.

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Reply #2 - Sep 19th, 2016 at 6:17pm
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have not tried ceramic yet - hope to, especially with thin turned necks.

With pins I use two tablespoons of Dawn and 1/4 tsp (usually heaping) of Lemi Shine.   Tumble for at least an hour and primer pockets are fairly clean but for some residue around the bottom edges - enough shine from the bottom of the brass to show a case is charged or not.    That is an extra safety feature if loading light loads of smokeless.
  

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SgtDog0311 wrote on Sep 19th, 2016 at 6:17pm:
have not tried ceramic yet - hope to, especially with thin turned necks.

With pins I use two tablespoons of Dawn and 1/4 tsp (usually heaping) of Lemi Shine.   Tumble for at least an hour and primer pockets are fairly clean but for some residue around the bottom edges - enough shine from the bottom of the brass to show a case is charged or not.    That is an extra safety feature if loading light loads of smokeless.


John,

Lemi Shine with Dawn does not work as well as the other solution listed, hence the long cleaning time required & still some residue in the primer pockets.  And the increased cleaning time will result in case lip peening, especially when using pins.  

When using either Strat-O-Sheen or Dave Maurer's stuff with Dawn, my presoaked black powder cases are completely clean & shinny, including the primer pockets, in 30 to 45 minutes in a tumbler with ceramic media.  With SS pins it would be a little faster.  Peened lips may not bother you but they raise hell with my loading and chambering, so I do everything I can to minimize the time in the tumbler.

BTW, after I shoot a relay the cases are deprimed at the range & dropped in a detergent solution (water & Dawn works fine) to soak until they're dumped into the tumbler for cleaning.  

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Reply #4 - Sep 19th, 2016 at 7:12pm
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I use ceramic media in my tumbler also. Find the smaller media does a better job of cleaning inside the primer pockets. I haven't used anything other than dishwashing soap in mine.
  

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Where do I find the ceramic media?
  

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Bought mine on Fleabay. But most rock shops and some craft stores also carry it. I bought the ceramic in cylindrical shapes, with rounded ends. Some is round balls, and some is cut off at sharp angles. I thought the sharp angles could clean well, but might scratch cases.
Here's one that combines both cylindrical and round media:
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Thank you. It appears that it should be more aggressive than corn cob or walnut. The additional cost per lb. should be balanced by its hardness thus giving it a longer life. I can see how it should accomplish more cleaning and polishing in less time. Am I reading this right?
  

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my main ceramic media, used mostly for BP cases like 40-65
40 -72,etc is 3mm triangular x3mm long. Have used it now for the last probably 10 yrs. It does not wear out. 
And it does not scratch cases. 
I do also have some smaller spherical ceramic media I use for smaller cases. Works well, too,cleaning the cases, even 25-20s inside and out, tho it does not clean out the primer pockets as well as the triangular media. (the triangular media would jam in the smaller cases)
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beltfed wrote on Sep 19th, 2016 at 11:54pm:

I do also have some smaller spherical ceramic media I use for smaller cases. Works well, too,cleaning the cases, even 25-20s inside and out, tho it does not clean out the primer pockets as well as the triangular media. (the triangular media would jam in the smaller cases)
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Arnie,

You may know this but if you mix some stainless steel pins with the small spherical ceramic media it will clean out the primer pockets in the smaller cases.

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Reply #10 - Sep 20th, 2016 at 7:00am
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OK Wayne. Makes sense to mix in the s.s. pins. Where do I obtain them and what proportion mix would you suggest? Sounds ideal for me as I shoot .32-20CPA & .25-20WCF. Thanks. Ray
  

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I have two different sizes of the cylinder shaped ceramic media. I was keeping them separate for use, but finally just mixed them together and use it that way. Works great, and washing the media in clear water makes it ready for the next round. No reason to ever replace it, as it never wears out.
  

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Kramer K-Polish Triangles 3mm
Strat-O-Sheen burnishing solution
Squirt of Dawn
Squirt of Scrubbing Bubbles
  
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Reply #13 - Sep 20th, 2016 at 6:30pm
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I'll give some of these other products a try Mac.  So far I've been satisfied with results but after turning cases for a couple calibers the peening did give me concern and I went to shorter cycles.   The ceramic is what I really want to try.  Only started shooting black powder this past years too... so new ball game anyway.
  

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Reply #14 - Sep 20th, 2016 at 7:58pm
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Ceramic media or SSpins. you will like them.
Esp for BP case cleaning. That is where I got started with 
the ceramic. Just have not got around to trying some of the SS Pins.
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