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Is this a #16 Maynard?
Sep 18th, 2016 at 8:36pm
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Obviously the rifle pictured below has all the general characteristics of a #16, but I am asking the question because the barrel is round full length and all 16's I have seen had barrels with the octagon to the end of the forearm and then round to the muzzle. It is an 1882 model and the caliber is either a 38-50 or 38-55.
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Re: Is this a #16 Maynard?
Reply #1 - Sep 18th, 2016 at 8:52pm
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Looks like the one that sold at auction today, did you buy it?
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Re: Is this a #16 Maynard?
Reply #2 - Sep 18th, 2016 at 9:07pm
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Yes, it is a model 16. The pistol grip butt stock with the swiss buttplate, rack and pinion sight and forend make it so. Most #16's had the 9" octagon barrel but full round barrels were an option and having it would not make it wrong.

Check the chamber to determine if it is for the everlasting or standard case. Most auction houses don't know the difference and most can't get Maynard calibers correct because the barrels aren't marked as to caliber.
  
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Reply #3 - Sep 18th, 2016 at 9:38pm
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Thanks Deadeye, I was thinking what you said.
Yes I bought it.
  
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Reply #4 - Sep 21st, 2016 at 6:53am
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Does it seem heavy enough to be called a Dover barrel?
  
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Reply #5 - Sep 21st, 2016 at 2:21pm
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Dover barrel, not familiar with the comment?
  
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Reply #6 - Sep 21st, 2016 at 7:42pm
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What is meant by Dover Barrel?
  
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Reply #7 - Sep 21st, 2016 at 8:04pm
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All I know is that I once met with a serious Maynard collector and he had a model 16 with a heavy round barrel and he called it a Dover barrel. I think it alludes to a Maynard rifle club. I assume it was in Dover, Del.
  
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Re: Is this a #16 Maynard?
Reply #8 - Sep 27th, 2016 at 7:03pm
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I received my new Maynard today, everything I could hope for. Very nice in excellent condition with a mint bore. It is a 38 and I will cast the chamber to determine the exact chamber dimensions. The twist is 18, as it is stamped under the barrel near the pivot lug. The function of the action is very good and the lockup solid. BTW the lever is plated the same as the buttplate. Its a grey color so not sure if its nickel or silver. (Probably Nickel)
The sights are a Maynard mid range rack and pinion tang sight and the front is a #7 Lyman windage. The front is the first I have seen of these and they are really nice.
As I said at the start I am very pleased. Should be a great shooter.
  
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Re: Is this a #16 Maynard?
Reply #9 - Sep 27th, 2016 at 8:30pm
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Just to add a comment/opinion, the wood work on the pistol grip of the #16 has to be the finest fitting of wood to metal and wood to wood any where in the gun world. IMHO
  
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Re: Is this a #16 Maynard?
Reply #10 - Oct 7th, 2016 at 9:32am
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As I said previously, I have cast and slugged the bore. The rifle is chambered for the 38-55 case. The chamber including the rim gap is 2.110" and the neck diameter is .416" diameter. That is larger then the standard 38-55 (.394) but matches the 38-50 Maynard. I suspect the rifle was 38-50 at time of build but later re-chambered to the 55 case, most likely because of availability of cases once Maynard closed their doors.
The bore is .374" and the groove is .380. Leads me to believe it was designed to shoot a .375 paper patch bullet, however just my opinion.
I also was able to buy a new unused box of Winchester brand 38-55 ammo for $40 so I am set for cases as well.
  
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Re: Is this a #16 Maynard?
Reply #11 - Oct 7th, 2016 at 10:38am
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Sounds like it's already to shoot. Do you have a mold for it? If so, let us know how it does.

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Re: Is this a #16 Maynard?
Reply #12 - Oct 7th, 2016 at 1:34pm
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I will make my own later this month. I intend to make both a PP mold and a grooved bullet mold. I make mine point pour. I am looking at a ~1.150" long design and will first design in cad so I can estimate weight and fine tune design. I am think weight in the 260 to 280 grain range.
  
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Re: Is this a #16 Maynard?
Reply #13 - Oct 9th, 2016 at 10:16am
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I designed this bullet for the Maynard. It is 1.100" long based on the 18" twist of my rifle. The base band and next band up, when cast, will be .380" diameter to match groove diameter. The other 4 bands going toward the nose will be .374" diameter which is bore diameter. Cast 1/20 T/L the bullet is estimated to weigh 285 grains. I will make custom boring bars, for ogive and band shape, and then bore the mold on my lathe. As I said earlier it will be point pore. 
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Re: Is this a #16 Maynard?
Reply #14 - Oct 10th, 2016 at 9:22pm
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It sounds as if it the chamber may be for the everlasting cartridge. What does it measure at the base of the cartridge?. Check it out before attempting to fire it or you may get a split case and a face full of hot gas.
  
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