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Joe Do... Oldtimer ASSRA Board Member ASSRA Journal Editor Offline Posts: 585 Location: 'burbs of Chicago Joined: May 19^th, 2012	Need help identifying a custom Low Wall Sep 16^th, 2016 at 7:21pm	Print Post
	I went into a local shop today and found an interesting Winchester Low Wall gallery rifle in .22 Short. It has a 28" #2 barrel. The bore is good to very good. There is no serial number on the lower tang. The lower tang is bent and has double set triggers. The curve of the double-set triggers doesn't look factory but they are nice. The lever has an added finger loop on the bottom and the end of the loop has a small wood block added similar to a Maynard. The forend is checkered. The checkering isn't perfectly straight but looks decent. The buttstock is uncheckered and perch belly. The rifle looks like it's been together for a long time. Any thoughts and opinions of gunmaker and value are appreciated.


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Zack T Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 354 Joined: Apr 9^th, 2010	Re: Need help identifying a custom Low Wall Reply #1 - Sep 16^th, 2016 at 7:29pm	Print Post
	No idea on maker but those triggers look like they came off a tennessee mountain rifle. People like low walls and it has good curb appeal. It would be a hard gun to build for less then 2k or so but in .22 short ? I think its cute


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chawk Full Member Offline Posts: 208 Location: Virginia Joined: Jan 29^th, 2014	Re: Need help identifying a custom Low Wall Reply #2 - Sep 16^th, 2016 at 7:50pm	Print Post
	I've bought 8 or 9 .22 1885's over the last two years or so and I find it hard to put a value it.
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FITZ Oldtimer Offline REGARDS Posts: 917 Location: MASSACHUSETTS Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: Need help identifying a custom Low Wall Reply #3 - Sep 16^th, 2016 at 8:38pm	Print Post
	Joe, that Fore End looks like an original that has been set back. The Checkering pattern looks like Winchester but having been set back it brought the checkering right back to the face of the action. The case colors also are quite nice and may? be original colors. All in all it is a quite pleasing piece. The Stock is neat and makes use of a straight grip Lower Tang with the Wood addition to the lever effectively gives a Pistol Grip feel. That Rifle in this area would not last long on a Dealers shelf. HTH Regards, FITZ.

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Ray_Newman Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 274 Location: Washington State Joined: Jul 13^th, 2004	Re: Need help identifying a custom Low Wall Reply #4 - Sep 16^th, 2016 at 8:47pm	Print Post
	Be still my heart!

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QuestionableMaynard8130 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4144 Location: Benton Harbor MI Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Need help identifying a custom Low Wall Reply #5 - Sep 16^th, 2016 at 9:15pm	Print Post
	thank God thats over on the other side of the lake. a 22 short custom Win gallery rifle----thats got "take-me-home and use me" written all over it. and my current budget would not stand it. Fair Price

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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3555 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Need help identifying a custom Low Wall Reply #6 - Sep 16^th, 2016 at 9:29pm	Print Post
	I don't always like how 'custom' guns end up- but sometimes, sometimes one comes along that's so nice I get a little envious. This sure looks like one of 'em. Congratulations on fine taste and good fortune.


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Need help identifying a custom Low Wall Reply #7 - Sep 16^th, 2016 at 10:59pm	Print Post
	A $4 or 5 hundred Winchester tang sight. Nicely shaped perch-belly, but the checkering is amateurish.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16065 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Need help identifying a custom Low Wall Reply #8 - Sep 16^th, 2016 at 11:11pm	Print Post
	That's a lovely little Low Wall Joe! I like everything about it; even the .22 Short caliber! It appears to be the work of a skilled craftsman, but I haven't a guess as to who that might be! I'd sure have to take it home too!

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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2831 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: Need help identifying a custom Low Wall Reply #9 - Sep 17^th, 2016 at 3:22am	Print Post
	I think it dates from the days of the 75-foot indoor gallery offhand matches; 1880s to before WW1. I would grab it in a heartbeat.


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Bill Lawrence Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1037 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: Need help identifying a custom Low Wall Reply #10 - Sep 17^th, 2016 at 1:52pm	Print Post
	When this lovely little rifle was put together, one could likely still get .22 Shorts, especially those loaded with Lesmoke, that were death to bullseyes at gallery distances. Even today, with the right ammo, I'd bet it will still do the job! Bill Lawrence


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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2831 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: Need help identifying a custom Low Wall Reply #11 - Sep 17^th, 2016 at 2:08pm	Print Post
	Ordinary CCI Target Shorts are 97 % as accurate as the old Lesmok loaded stuff and are more-or-less available. Save the old stuff for the time when your offhand accuracy is 97 % as good as the old masters.


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Green_Frog Frequent Elocutionist Offline "It ain't easy being green" ASSRA Life #281 Posts: 4012 Location: Lynchburg, VA Joined: Apr 18^th, 2004	Re: Need help identifying a custom Low Wall Reply #12 - Sep 17^th, 2016 at 6:19pm	Print Post
	I agree that your low wall was probably a pre-WW I build, most probably for use in gallery matches. To me it is a piece of History you can shoot... Win-win!! Congratulations on a great find. Froggie


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fallingblock ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 633 Location: Wisconsin Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: Need help identifying a custom Low Wall Reply #13 - Sep 17^th, 2016 at 8:24pm	Print Post
	It is a Zettler Brothers rifle made in NYC. Cheers, Laurie

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Zack T Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 354 Joined: Apr 9^th, 2010	Re: Need help identifying a custom Low Wall Reply #14 - Sep 18^th, 2016 at 2:04am	Print Post
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