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Statesrights Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 444 Location: Virginia Joined: May 3^rd, 2016	.22 rimfire at 200 yds Aug 25^th, 2016 at 5:47pm	Print Post
	My rifle likes Federal 711B and 900 (better) at 100 yards. I'm wondering if the Federal HV Match (719) at 1200 fps would do better at 200 yards. Anyone have some experience to share?


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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2944 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: .22 rimfire at 200 yds Reply #1 - Aug 26^th, 2016 at 5:11am	Print Post
	Several folks who shoot our 200m .22LR matches shoot the Fed HV target ammo and do well. However, the best shooters (highest scores) mostly shoot the best ammo (high end Eley, Lapua, etc. target ammo). Just like our CF rifles, .22LR rifles are particular and what works best in one doesn't work that well in the next. My DZ Arms Hepburn with Shilen rachet-rifled barrel does not like either of the Fed loads.

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Statesrights Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 444 Location: Virginia Joined: May 3^rd, 2016	Re: .22 rimfire at 200 yds Reply #2 - Aug 26^th, 2016 at 7:49am	Print Post
	Thank you for the counsel. My Cody Ballard does nicely with the 900, but it might be time to experiment some more. Mostly I'm wondering if the HV would do better at 200 than the standard velocity. I suspect not, figuring when it drops below the sound barrier it will create a wobble. When I get a chance I'll give it a try.


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Hayface Full Member Offline Posts: 249 Joined: Mar 20^th, 2015	Re: .22 rimfire at 200 yds Reply #3 - Aug 26^th, 2016 at 9:07am	Print Post
	Gents, I can't speak specifically for 200 yards, but the most consistent accuracy (in numerous rifles) at our 300 yard buffalo matches has been with RWS R100. Hayface


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KAF Ex Member	Re: .22 rimfire at 200 yds Reply #4 - Aug 26^th, 2016 at 9:09am	Print Post
	I will say the all/most of the 200 yd 22 guys use a standard velocity ammo. None of it is cheap but the scores show alot. 240 (or more) out of 250 at 200 yds is nothing to sneeze at.


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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3003 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: .22 rimfire at 200 yds Reply #5 - Aug 26^th, 2016 at 11:49am	Print Post
	We shoot .22 rimfire at 200 frequently, our problems being wind & mirage. Our most recent 30-shot match from the bench was won (by 1 point) by a shooter using Eley Club. IIRC, the score was 641 out of a 750 possible. I shot a 640-1c using SK Rifle Match. A close 3rd went to a shooter using Norma Match. Last place was a 444, to a shooter using Remington Golden Bullets (something like that) out of a big Walmartish (Walmartian?)box. With our consistent mirage problems, using the really high end stuff is somewhat wasteful. Save that stuff for the BR-50 and the 100-yard matches. I should add that those shooting the high scores had baseball (or maybe softball)-sized groups, but all were centered 4+ inches to the left. Had we been able to read the mirage better, the scores would have been higher. The Walmartian ammo shot all over the target, but with more holes to the left than to the right.
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Statesrights Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 444 Location: Virginia Joined: May 3^rd, 2016	Re: .22 rimfire at 200 yds Reply #6 - Aug 26^th, 2016 at 6:14pm	Print Post
	I appreciate and offer my thanks for each of your responses. I'm not in a location where I've relatively easy access to 200 yard experimentation. Hardly access to the world as most of you know it. When I can pick up some Tennex, I'll try it. Next month Beeson is likely to see me shooting Federal 900 for record. Watch for it!


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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3003 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: .22 rimfire at 200 yds Reply #7 - Sep 7^th, 2016 at 2:58am	Print Post
	If I had Tennex, I would not waste it in 200-yard experimentation. Wolf ME is plenty good.


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Statesrights Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 444 Location: Virginia Joined: May 3^rd, 2016	Re: .22 rimfire at 200 yds Reply #8 - Sep 7^th, 2016 at 8:21am	Print Post
	Thanks to all for the responses. A humbling Beeson report is in order. Fed 900 holds elevation just fine at 200 and spreads about a foot horizontally; kind of like some of my centerfire targets. Apparently the enthusiasm demonstrated by the wind flags indicated something more than celebration.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18077 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: .22 rimfire at 200 yds Reply #9 - Sep 7^th, 2016 at 9:46am	Print Post
	I use PMC Target in my Cody Ballard, and it has shot well for me out to 300 yds. I have a couple cases of it, but unsure if it's still available, as these are 20 yrs. old.

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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3003 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: .22 rimfire at 200 yds Reply #10 - Sep 7^th, 2016 at 11:21am	Print Post
	At 20 years old, how is the accuracy holding up? I have some questions about shelf life. Probably should start another topic.


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RayH Oldtimer Offline Posts: 757 Location: Oldest City, FL Joined: Jan 4^th, 2012	Re: .22 rimfire at 200 yds Reply #11 - Sep 7^th, 2016 at 12:09pm	Print Post
	Results will only come from exhaustive testing. Maybe! SSShooter- You are spot on. "22 rifles are particular and what works best in one may not work that well in another" Hayface- I've seen some good groups using RWS R100. Hope to confirm with "serious" testing soon. waterman - I test everything I can obtain in reasonable quantity. You never know what you may learn. Consider the great results using Eley Match as evidenced by the ASSRA Results equipment lists. Also note Laurie Gapko's standing 200 yd score record using Fiocci V320. To further confuse the issue, I have found that a specific ammunition that excels on one occasion may not be best on another. Altitude, temp., humidity, barometric pressure, etc. If I ever find the "best" ammo., it will be in my dreams!

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.22Hepburn Oldtimer Offline Posts: 844 Location: Pennsylvania Joined: Feb 18^th, 2008	Re: .22 rimfire at 200 yds Reply #12 - Sep 7^th, 2016 at 12:50pm	Print Post
	FYI, here is an equipment listing of the winners of the .22 BPCRA National Championship match at Raton. The distances shot in the match are 50,100,150, and 200 yards. 2016 “Scope” Top Ten Shooter’s list Place Shooter’s name Rifle used Scope used Ammo 1ST HOA Brian Chilson C. Sharps Win. MVA 23” Lapua “Midas” 2nd HOA Jimmie Summerfield Rolling Block Summerfield RWS “R100” 3rd HOA Ted Tompkins Meacham Win. Low wall MVA Win “B” Lapua “Midas” 1st Master Randy Rannberg D-Z Arms Hepburn D-Z Arms 8X Lapua “Midas” 2nd Master Kevin Griggs CPA Lyman Junior T.S. Eley “Tenex” 3rd Master Bob Glodt Ballard / Cody MVA 23” Lapua “Midas” 1st AAA Jim Gier Ballard “original” MVA Win. “B” Federal “Gold Medal” 2nd AAA Kenny Wasserburger Ballard / Cody MVA 23” Lapua Midas & Center X 3rd AAA Daniel MacDonald D-Z Hepburn D-Z Arms 8X Lapua “Midas” 1st AA George Taylor Ballard original MVA Win. “B” Eley Club


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RayH Oldtimer Offline Posts: 757 Location: Oldest City, FL Joined: Jan 4^th, 2012	Re: .22 rimfire at 200 yds Reply #13 - Sep 7^th, 2016 at 1:10pm	Print Post
	Wow! It sure looks like the pricey stuff pays nice dividends in many instances. Thanks for the detailed info.

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.22Hepburn Oldtimer Offline Posts: 844 Location: Pennsylvania Joined: Feb 18^th, 2008	Re: .22 rimfire at 200 yds Reply #14 - Sep 7^th, 2016 at 2:27pm	Print Post
	They say that "the proof is in the pudding", so I think that this is a nice serving of "pudding". The less expensive/high velocity ammo is fine for plinking, but this list shows what it takes to win matches.


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