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RCBS Dipper
Aug 16th, 2016 at 11:31pm
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Based on by troubles with sludge forming on my old dipper of uncertain parentage, I followed the recommendation to buy an RCBS dipper.  It came yesterday, and is certainly a huge improvement visually and physically.  For those who have not seen one, here 'tis.
  

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Reply #1 - Aug 17th, 2016 at 12:30am
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The old one looks like an Ideal / Lyman.  I give mine a good cleaning inside and out with a wire brush on a drill motor once in a while.  That does wonders for them.  RCBS is a good one too, but a bit heavier to cast with.
  

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Reply #2 - Aug 17th, 2016 at 1:09am
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1+ on wire brushing the Lyman.  I re-shaped the outside of spout to match taper of sprue plate c' sink.  Finally, I treat it inside/out with mould-prep.
  
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Reply #3 - Aug 17th, 2016 at 9:53am
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What do you guy do to keep the dipper from getting oxidized between casting sessions.  I've just been spraying it down with wd-40 after it cools.  It helps a little, but not a lot.  I've been buying a new one every couple of years Smiley.   I like the RCBS ones too.

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Reply #4 - Aug 17th, 2016 at 10:55am
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    I like the OLD Lyman dippers, usually lap the spout to a spherical contour, tho, the better to fit the sprue plate recess.   The RCBS dippers are heavy and awkward by comparison, and the only virtue I see is that they are readily modify-able to LH use.  I had one once, but soon discarded it.
    WD-40 is inferior to synthetic motor oils as a rust inhibitor.   I don't flux the melt much whilst casting, but occasionally touch the dipper spout to a block of paraffin wax to keep it clean.   Haven't tried the mold-prep spray on a dipper yet, but it looks like a good idea.

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Reply #5 - Aug 17th, 2016 at 5:15pm
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I easily converted my Lyman dipper to left hand use.
Just drilled a 3/16 hole opposite the original location,
Threaded (a new, slightly longer 3/16 rod) and use a nut on each side of the dipper body to hold the new handle in its new location. 
2. RCBS dipper would be ok if one removed that "skid" from the bottom and also sharpen the back of the body somewhat
so one can scrape and skim with it
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Reply #6 - Aug 17th, 2016 at 5:23pm
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gunlaker wrote on Aug 17th, 2016 at 9:53am:
What do you guy do to keep the dipper from getting oxidized between casting sessions.  
I like the RCBS ones too.
Chris.
I leave mine in the melt. Why take it out and let it oxidize? I stop casting in March and start again the following January. Dipper is nice and clean when I first fire up the Lee 20# pot each season. 
Also use the RCBS dipper and I wouldn't want to change as would have to develop a different rhythm.

  

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Reply #7 - Aug 17th, 2016 at 5:33pm
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Oh, also plugged the old handle holeon my now left handed Lyman dipper   with a round head 3/16 screw.
  
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Reply #8 - Aug 17th, 2016 at 11:31pm
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I take a wire wheel to my Lyman dipper when it gets too bad.  Spray some mold drop out sometimes.  Keeping the rust off helps keep it cleaner.  Been using the same one for 20 years or so.

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Reply #9 - Aug 18th, 2016 at 1:41am
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I have not tried the Lyman ladle but I really like the RCBS ladle over the Lee and Bill Ferguson ladles.  In constrast to beltfed I like the "skid" on the bottom, which I use to move the slag/crud out of the way & as a resting/pivot point when pouring the sprue.  I enlarged the spout hole with a 3/16 drill, which works better for me.

I may have to purchase the Lyman ladle to see how it compares to the RCBS.

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Reply #10 - Aug 18th, 2016 at 11:20am
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Everyone does things their own way, but have found using the spout of the ladle to move the dross out of the way before dipping reduces the slag buildup on the ladle spout.
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Reply #11 - Aug 18th, 2016 at 1:49pm
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The Ideal dipper is fine for most casting jobs, but the RCBS is the go-to for big BPC bullets in .40 caliber and above.

Can't find it now, but the late, great Paul Matthews wrote an article long ago in which he calculated the perfect lead dipper ladle for casting .45-70 bullets.  It was of such proportions that it held the maximum amount of melted lead without tiring the operator.  He had a welder fabricate one up for him and announced it worked just as expected.  Several years later, RCBS came out with theirs, in cast iron, of course, and the resemblance to Matthews' design was nothing short of uncanny.
  
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Reply #12 - Aug 18th, 2016 at 2:28pm
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The sprue plates on our moulds are blued, just like the steel of our guns to retard the formation of the softer red rust oxidization, and the cast malleable iron mould blocks are "heat cured" to provide a harder blue oxidization.
Has anyone ever tried "bluing" their iron dippers to retard oxidization?
  

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Reply #13 - Aug 18th, 2016 at 4:48pm
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I never had any problem making 550 gr 45s with a Lyman dipper.  I'm too strong for my won good, broke my wrist turning a screw driver one time  Cry  but I still find that bigger RCBS dipper a bit heavy and awkward. All I use it for is moving more lead faster out of a pot if I empty it for some reason. 

Wonder why Paul Mathews wanted a bigger dipper?  Multi-cavity molds?
  

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Reply #14 - Aug 19th, 2016 at 4:08pm
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I get fewer light ones from Paul Jones, Hoch and other moulds for big bullets when I use the RCBS dipper.  My reference library has been severely impacted by my move that ended last year.  I put everything away in a logical, systematic manner when I finally got it over here, and now it's harder to find an article than in the other place when all was chaos.

I recall that Matthews was casting ~Postell size bullets in single cavity moulds though.
  
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