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Ballard #7 Long Range
Aug 15th, 2016 at 3:57pm
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I'm pretty excited to get this one! One of those holy grail guns, that isn't often seen, and not on my radar screen either! John Dutcher shows 11 known serial numbers for the #7, and this is #12. This just arrived after the USPS fiasco that promised quick shipping, but delivered the long, slow, many stops route!
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The Ballard is a first year 1875 #7 Long Range, in .44-100 Ballard caliber. Gorgeous bore, and for a 141 year old gun, in pretty decent overall shape. Few handling or character marks, but well cared for! 
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It has the correct 34" half octagon Creedmoor barrel, and long range vernier sight. The bore is excellent, and the .44-100 cartridge looks like a handful at about 3.75" OAL!
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Now I need to learn about paper patching, and loading for it! I have dies, brass, bullets, and mold that came with the gun. Just need to start the learning curve!
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Reply #1 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 4:46pm
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Wow!
Congratulations Vall, doesn't get much better!
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Reply #2 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 5:31pm
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You never stop amazing me. That's even cooler than the last time you scored big. (but I must say that snazzy Hepburn is more my kinda thing). Congratulations on a real prize.
  
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Reply #3 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 6:01pm
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Really nice Vall! Thanks for sharing.

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Reply #4 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 6:48pm
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Thanks guys! 
I've never paper patched. Don't shoot black powder. So now I need to learn all that, or find a grease groove bullet mold that works for this. I have a GG mold for my .44-77 SBN that's a 300 grain bullet, and it might work in this case? Need to slug this bore, and see what it is first. The mold is a brass mold that I believe is an Old West nose pour, adjustable. It drops from around 435-475 gr. paper patch bullet, of .442" diameter.
Anxious to build up some rounds and try it. Anyone have any recommendations on what BP to use? Maybe Fg, or Swiss 1 1/2?
  

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Reply #5 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 7:07pm
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It looks right a home .  Smiley 4570SS
  

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Reply #6 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 7:08pm
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Lucky man, nice gun. I like that Grin
  
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Reply #7 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 7:46pm
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Thanks for showing it. Very nice.
  
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Reply #8 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 8:16pm
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Wow, that's Great!

I shoot a Cody Copy...for silhouette.

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Reply #9 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 8:32pm
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Is the 44/100 Ballard the same as the 44/100 used in the Peabody Creedmore
  
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Reply #10 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 8:37pm
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4570sharpshooter wrote on Aug 15th, 2016 at 7:07pm:
It looks right a home .  Smiley 4570SS


Thanks Dennis! 
Got a big shock from my wife. She never comments on old guns I buy. She walked into the dining room and asked, "Where's that new Ballard?"
I had it leaning close by, and handed it to her, expecting her to just look. She took it from my hands and said, "That's a pretty gun."
Could have knocked me over with a feather! First comment she's ever made about an old gun. Even my two engraved Ballards didn't get a comment.
  

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Reply #11 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 8:42pm
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Fazer wrote on Aug 15th, 2016 at 8:32pm:
Is the 44/100 Ballard the same as the 44/100 used in the Peabody Creedmore


Closest thing I could find to a .44-100 Peabody was a .44-95 Peabody What Cheer. It's a bottleneck.
I don't see anything close to this .44-100 Ballard, other than it's successor the .45-100 Ballard.
  

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Reply #12 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 8:43pm
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shovel80 wrote on Aug 15th, 2016 at 8:16pm:
Wow, that's Great!

I shoot a Cody Copy...for silhouette.

Terry


Do you load BP or smokeless? What bullet weight? How is the recoil?
  

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Reply #13 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 8:45pm
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Vall - very nice. You might talk to Tom Klinger. He has an original long-range/Creedmoor  Roller, Sharps and Hepburn. Have shot his Hepburn and it is also a 44-100. Tom shoots PP in his rifles and is generally in the top-3 at the 4-day SE Regional with one or the other of them. Makes us folks with new barrels look bad. Wink Tom posts here on occasion and am sure he would be happy to talk to you about loading for your #7.
  

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Reply #14 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 8:50pm
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SSShooter wrote on Aug 15th, 2016 at 8:45pm:
Vall - very nice. You might talk to Tom Klinger. He has an original long-range/Creedmoor  Roller, Sharps and Hepburn. Have shot his Hepburn and it is also a 44-100. Tom shoots PP in his rifles and is generally in the top-3 at the 4-day SE Regional with one or the other of them. Makes us folks with new barrels look bad. Wink Tom posts here on occasion and am sure he would be happy to talk to you about loading for your #7.

Does he use "Tom Klinger" as his user name? Sounds like a good source of knowledge for BP and PP.
  

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