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Aug 8th, 2016 at 7:53am
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What is a good humidity range to store our collectables in that will help prevent rust? I have a dehumidifier and it has humidity range settings. I don't want to make it too dry either.
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Reply #1 - Aug 8th, 2016 at 10:09am
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I don't know what is ideal, but I keep mine on 35%.
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Reply #2 - Aug 8th, 2016 at 10:24am
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It's recommended that firearms be stored at 50% humidity and 70 degrees Fahrenheit.  Since steel molds rust - store them in the same environment
  
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Reply #3 - Aug 8th, 2016 at 12:20pm
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I use a Golden Rod in the safe.  Humidity is usually around 50%, 43 yesterday.  Too dry could definitely cause stock issues.
  

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Reply #4 - Aug 8th, 2016 at 5:05pm
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Thanks to all that have replied. The readout on the dehumidifier is running at 52 %. I must be in the ball park and I will keep it there. My molds are stored with a spray of WD-40 and then wrapped in several layers of plastic bag. It seems to be working well. Also I been wiping down my firearms with a cloth that has Break Free CLP. So far so good. 

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Reply #5 - Aug 8th, 2016 at 6:24pm
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Oh the joy of being in the dry Southwest! My moulds have just been put on the shelf after casting with nothing on them for well over 40 years with no rust.
  
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Reply #6 - Aug 8th, 2016 at 7:21pm
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Same here in Nevada- sometimes our humidity is as low as five percent. Seldom over forty. Except when it's raining- both times a decade. Rust is something you bring from the coast.
  
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Reply #7 - Aug 9th, 2016 at 8:21am
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Harley Davidsons all used to be shipped with what was about a 2 foot long X about 3-inch bag of desiccant. I keep one in my gun safe every year about mid summer I put it in the oven at 200 for a few hours. I’ve had it for years and I got it for free from a Harley dealer who just threw them in the trash. 

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Reply #8 - Aug 9th, 2016 at 9:46am
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I'm starting to worry now, and never have previously in over 45 years of reloading, and owning firearms! I've never done anything to my molds, guns, or safe storage before. I have my guns out often, and wipe them off when they go back in the safes. I toss my molds in an old milk crate, and get them out to cast again later.
Now I'm thinking I must be doing something wrong? Unknown what my humidity is, but all my guns and molds are in our finished basement, so never too hot or too cold. Guess I need to get a meter and figure out if I just got lucky on humidity, or my stuff is all going bad and I don't see it yet?
  

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Reply #9 - Aug 9th, 2016 at 5:12pm
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Move to southern California & you won't have to think about rust. Seriously, I'm living in socal 47yrs. & never had a problem with rust. I keep my guns in a safe, my moulds in a draw & my collectible implimants in a lawyers book case in the office. Every once in a while I'll polish up a couple of rifles with a good carnuba paste wax, while I'm sitting & watching the boob tube I don't oil moulds or rifle bores.               ever.          ...MIKE... Cool
  
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Reply #10 - Aug 9th, 2016 at 5:28pm
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Same here Mike in Modesto Ca. my safe is in the unconditioned garage and not a problem.

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Reply #11 - Aug 9th, 2016 at 10:17pm
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Gee, I have my guns inside of a well insulated shop, inside of a temperature controlled gun room and in a safe...and I duct tape the door to keep out moisture.  I live in dry Utah...am I overthinking this issue? Wink

Just kidding on the duct tape.   I leave my molds out on the casting bench for months without any problem and no lube or spray on them.  Every time I've put oil or WD-40 on the mold it has taken me hours to clean the stuff off to cast good bullets.   

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Reply #12 - Aug 10th, 2016 at 7:22am
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Dave, Here in upstate New York we get humidity in the summer months. We have to keep our molds oiled to prevent rust unless they are stored where the humidity is controlled. I spray mine with WD-40 and wrap it up in a plastic bag. When it is time to cast I clean off the WD-40 with carb cleaner and then per-heating at the edge of the lead pot they cast good bullets on the second or third pour. 

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Reply #13 - Aug 10th, 2016 at 8:31am
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Be careful what you spray your molds clean with, and then subject them to heat! Carb or brake cleaner can give of deadly fumes when heated that can kill you instantly! They both contain phosgene gas that is bad stuff when heated. Make sure it's dry for a long time prior to heating the molds!
  

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Marlinguy, After I clean my mold with the carb cleaner, I dry it with cotton cloth and Q-tips. The mold is then set atop the lead furnace to heat as the alloy comes up to temperature. 
Thanks for the info.

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Reply #15 - Aug 11th, 2016 at 7:38am
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You guys in dry climates are lucky.  Right now we have 94% humidity here in
Ohio.  If you don't have a dehumidifier in the house or have everything oiled
it will rust.
  
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Reply #16 - Aug 14th, 2016 at 11:03am
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Phosgene does not kill instantly but rather slowly and reliably. 
LC100 is >5330 mg x min/cu m
for reference sarin (GB) is 35 mg x min/cu m
Phosgene in simple terms irritates the lungs and you drown. 
At low concentrations onset of symptoms may take 4-24 hours. 
Odor is like newly cut hay. 

Cheap and easy humdity:
add water to glass with a little ice. 
stir and wait for condensation on glass
record temp of water/ice mixture as well as ambient temp. 
google dewpoint, use table to obtain relative humidity. 

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Reply #17 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 12:53pm
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Unless the formula has changed, WD-40 will not prevent rust, but washes the oil off.  Years ago, I made the mistake of spraying the spark plug holes of an antique Moline tractor with it, and had to leave it outside for a couple of weeks.  Seized up the pistons!  WD means water dispersant.  A good grade of wax is what museums use to protect guns, keeps dust particles off so they don't attract moisture and cause rust pits.
 
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G96 Gun  Treatment will protect them from the sweatiest grimy paws.
  

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I live on the Gulf Coast so humidity could not be much higher and the absolute best stuff on firearms to prevent rust is a product called Rustpruff. I have been using it for 50 years and have never had a gun rust with it on it.
  

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Reply #20 - Sep 21st, 2016 at 9:14pm
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use to use brake cleaner on my molds. for like 10 years had ruff looking bullets and thru more back in pot than I used. and my good bullet were not that good. found out I had to clean my molds in hot soapy water to get them casting again. We are talking mostly Lyman molds. Its like it ( brake cleaner)gasses off and makes small pocks on bullet.. pocks is that a word? anyway bad bullet fill out Cry
  
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WD-40 is not great for rust prevention. RemOil is much better.
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Don't EVER keep things wrapped for long in plastic; it's air-tight and since things therein can't breathe (hence the warnings on plastic bags) any moisture plus oxygen already therein can't get out.

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Bill Lawrence wrote on Nov 1st, 2016 at 6:32am:
Don't EVER keep things wrapped for long in plastic; it's air-tight and since things therein can't breathe (hence the warnings on plastic bags) any moisture plus oxygen already therein can't get out.

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Indeed! I still recall going in the service in 1969 and my dad did me a big favor by wrapping a clear plastic tarp all around my pristine '57 Chevy Belair, so it would remain dust free, and bug free while I was gone. About 6 months later I came home on leave and every place the tarp touched paint had begun to rust. It was like a big greenhouse inside the plastic, trapping humidity!
  

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RJM wrote on Oct 31st, 2016 at 10:11am:
WD-40 is not great for rust prevention. RemOil is much better.
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Have had RemOil turn to sticky goo over time, so I quit using it.
  

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G96 gun treatment will keep things rust free.
  

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