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Reply #15 - Jul 29th, 2016 at 4:18pm
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John  Great discussion .
Pushing bullets into foam tray should cut down on the chance of damage from bullets dropping on each other .
Any thoughts on pushing bullets out of the lube nose first ? I was thinking that might keep lube in the groves of tapered bullets . I use a wooden dowel in a file handle to push my bullets out from the base.

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Reply #16 - Jul 29th, 2016 at 6:30pm
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Fun to read the different techniques and pick up some amendments.   Coincidence has it that I just pushed 50 out and put another 50 back in the oven.   Back is hurting so sitting down to read the thread for 20 minutes of down time.

Btw... not sure if it's been said but 200 degrees is as high as I let my toaster get.   Never leave longer than necessary.  Used my oven in the kitchen this spring while at the cabin.   You guessed it.  Forgot for about four hours.  Lube was one dry cake.   Didn't even feel good about the bullets even if they were only at 200.

Oh, and I stink at pouring that first cake for each pan.  I can see why Frank does it one at a time.  I'm getting better over time but never fail to pour it over an ungainly amount of bullet noses.   The word 'klutz' comes to mind.
  

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Reply #17 - Jul 29th, 2016 at 7:49pm
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When I first started pan lubing bullets I used metal cake pans. But like I stated above I started using the Silicone Rubber Cake pans, I think I said Teflon above?No going back now!...I just let the lube cool down and the pan easily pulls away from the cake...doesn't stick at all!
Here is what they look like..They're about 9" Diameter and a little more than 2" tall.

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Reply #18 - Jul 30th, 2016 at 1:08am
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How much lube do you need to get started with for a typical bullet for a 32-40 and a meat loaf sized pan?   Lips Sealed
  
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Reply #19 - Jul 30th, 2016 at 1:25am
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At least a pound, probably 1 1/2 would better.
  

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Reply #20 - Jul 30th, 2016 at 8:47am
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Been using a round 9" 'camp pot' (cheapo aluminum from Amazon) with a swivel handle and electric fondue pot, both teflon coated, and works great. Set the temp for ~220F and it just barely boils the water. Placed a small cake grate under the pot to insure there is water under same rather than resting on the bottom. The tefon insures nothing sticks. So far (3-years), so good with a total investment of <$50.
  

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Reply #21 - Jul 30th, 2016 at 11:57am
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JLouis wrote on Jul 29th, 2016 at 6:41pm:
Sgtdog I typicaly lube bullets as I am casting another batch of a 100 and never leave the double boiler unattended. Why you might ask? two of my friends left theirs unattended, the water evaporated and the lube caught on fire, one burned up the garage wall behind the pot and the other one his shop but not entirely
just another wall gone if memory serves me right. The second one had is gun safe in the area and as soon as the fire department left he opened it and the smoke had rusted everything and some with no hope of repair in that short amount of time.

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Yep... I learned my lesson.  The older I get the easier it is to forget what I shouldn't leave unattended.  I was lucky.  Don't want to rebuild that cabin!   I'm way to old to do it over again.
  

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Reply #22 - Jul 31st, 2016 at 10:38am
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I use the same method as you, JLouis.  Only my pan is a rectangular Tupper-ware "type" from Walmart.  It holds 50 bullets of whatever size I cast or purchase.  I re-melt my lube and pour anew each time so the mass stays consistent.  Here I thought I was really smart using the wooden plate to align the bullets until I saw you've been using them for a long time.  Oh well, nothing is ever really "new", I guess. Smiley  I was glad to see others pushing their bullets out and not using a cutter.  That cutter step never seemed to make sense to me.
  

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Reply #23 - Jul 31st, 2016 at 11:15am
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Here is a photo of the pans I use just after pouring in SPG.
These are large enough for my .40 and .45 Cal. bullets used for BPCR Silhouette. I use the lyman cartridge blocks for setting up the bullets in the pans.

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Reply #24 - Jul 31st, 2016 at 1:39pm
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I found this very interesting, but being new to this game I wonder why the bullets are kept in the order in which they are cast.
  
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Reply #25 - Jul 31st, 2016 at 4:03pm
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I shoot in order cast because it makes sense to me.
Shooting steel animals is another Great Single Shot Challenge and NOT as easy as some think it is...

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Reply #26 - Jul 31st, 2016 at 4:47pm
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JLouis wrote on Jul 31st, 2016 at 3:22pm:
JWL the reason I shoot the bullets in the order cast is believe the bullet hardness changes as the lead pot goes down. If one were to shoot them in order of exact weight a bullet from the start of the session could be harder than the last softer bullet cast being of the same weight. If shooting steel animals it probably would have no ill effect due to the size of the target and a bigger free error factor. If one is shooting benchrest Schuetzen there is no free error factor. The difference of a shot being scored a 25 or a 24 is based on half the bullet diameter being in the 25 or out a 24 and now one point down. The difference of only .001 of the exact center of bullets diameter being out can easily keep one out the top three in a match at our club. If one bullet is harder than the next it would be hard for one to just assume they would both go to same place on the target. The goal is for everything to be exactly the same from one shot to next and it really is quite impossible as nothing remains a true constant. I have found over the last sixteen years of competitive shooting that as things start to gradually change on the target I can then recognize it and then make the required adjustments to keep up them. In reality if a softer bullet will not perform exactly the same as harder one is not really the issue. If one shoots in the order as cast any adverse results cannot take place because you have eliminated that possible variable by doing so. Eliminating all of variables is the true main goal, if not addressed and eliminated the errors they create all stack up in your opponents favor and not your own. The more you let them stack up or to remain the more points you freely give to them and the less your chances of becoming or remaining competitive become and the true and constant end result.

I hope this was helpful in addressing your question.

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I'm relatively new to this game.........but while I consider myself pretty anal on all that I do, I don't cast consistently enough to worry about loading the bullets in the order they were cast.  Maybe someday I'll get there if I live long enough.
  

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Reply #27 - Jul 31st, 2016 at 5:27pm
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  Don't worry about it; it's just superstition. If one bullet doesn't go in the same hole as the one before it, it wasn't because it was shot out of order.
  

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Reply #28 - Jul 31st, 2016 at 8:23pm
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J.Louis thanks for the info. I agree with the importance of eliminating as many variables as possible.
  
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Reply #29 - Aug 1st, 2016 at 7:41am
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Looks as if I am going to change my shooting techniques to become competitive.
  
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