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Re: Winchester 1885 High Wall in .40-82 WCF
Reply #15 - Jul 1st, 2016 at 11:46pm
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Yes, I have an original Winchester mould for my .40-82 as well, plus the current Lyman version ...

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Life#75 wrote on Jul 1st, 2016 at 5:24pm:
Dam , all I got is a winchester bullet mold in .40-82. Never did get a rifle.  Dam

  

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Reply #16 - Jul 3rd, 2016 at 2:46am
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(Had to remove the dead links to old Photobucket pictures)
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Reply #17 - Jul 3rd, 2016 at 3:52pm
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Neat. I have collected ammo- boxes and loose rounds- for a long while, but have never seen a .40-82 with the cannelure or a jacketed slug. Something new. Thanks, Reverend.
My '86 has gotten by with a handful of Bertram cases for shooting because I save my oldies for the shelf. Well, mostly in boxes, bags and wherever they end up. 
My 1895 in .38-72 shot paper patched until I got a borrowed mold to use. Did OK, for a trial.
  
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Reply #18 - Jul 3rd, 2016 at 8:09pm
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I have about 40 rounds of Bertram .45-90 that I have run through my RCBS .40-82 dies to form cases.  I have an original Winchester .40-82 mould plus the current Lyman version.  When I get my adjustable .40 paper patch mould from Red River Rick out in Winnipeg to use in my .40-90 Ballard, I can adjust it down to 240 grains and try making some PP "express" bullets to try out in the .40-82 as well ...

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Neat. I have collected ammo- boxes and loose rounds- for a long while, but have never seen a .40-82 with the cannelure or a jacketed slug. Something new. Thanks, Reverend.
My '86 has gotten by with a handful of Bertram cases for shooting because I save my oldies for the shelf. Well, mostly in boxes, bags and wherever they end up. 
My 1895 in .38-72 shot paper patched until I got a borrowed mold to use. Did OK, for a trial.

  

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Reply #19 - Jul 3rd, 2016 at 11:43pm
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Something bugged me about my earlier post commenting on the .40-82 with the jacketed bullet. What I meant to say was with a coppery jacketed bullet. I have seen them in the old nickel jackets. Oops.
  
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Reply #20 - Jul 4th, 2016 at 1:21am
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I have several old original Winchester cartridges ... some are cupro nickel, some are copper jackets, and some are with lead bullets so they obviously offered several different variations over the years!

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Reply #21 - Jul 4th, 2016 at 8:20am
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Thanks for the pic's.
IIRC, copper cases didn't work too well for the 7th Cavalry back in 1876. Wink
  

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Reply #22 - Jul 4th, 2016 at 11:00am
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That's another project I need to get to one of these days ... I bought an 1895 in .35 WCF and need to put together a few rounds to test in it ... couldn't turn it down since the price was right!

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My 1895 in .38-72 shot paper patched until I got a borrowed mold to use. Did OK, for a trial.

  

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Reply #23 - Jul 6th, 2016 at 10:14pm
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calledflyer wrote on Jul 3rd, 2016 at 3:52pm:
Neat. I have collected ammo- boxes and loose rounds- for a long while, but have never seen a .40-82 with the cannelure or a jacketed slug.


These are all WRA Co. headstamp and there is a mix of copper jacketed, cupro nickel jacketed, and lead.  I'll have to look ... I also have an old, full, slip top cardboard box of WRA Co. .40-82 WCF ammo and I'm not sure if they are all the same or mixed types as well?

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Reply #24 - Jul 6th, 2016 at 11:58pm
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Sounds like you have some neat stuff to fiddle with. Insofar as all the ammo variations there may be, the numbers would boggle my little mind. Had a pal that collected different .30-30 for a while and had many hundreds of that one alone. 
I have a number of sealed boxes that are over a hundred yrs of age. My oldest granddaughter dropped a sealed box of Winchester .38 long rimfire (with a near perfect label). Six piece box now, but it turned out she was doing research- there were only 49 rounds in the box! Whodda thunk?
  
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Reply #25 - Jul 23rd, 2016 at 2:50pm
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Finally going to shoot this old girl tomorrow.  I'm just heading down to my shop to load a few test rounds for her since I'm taking my next door neighbour up to our local gun club for a day of shooting tomorrow morning.  I'll be testing out the Ballard Pacific I recently bought so thought I'd finally get the High Wall out to shoot it a bit too.  Should be a fun day as my young neighbour is only in his late 20's and is quite keen to shoot and hunt, but is fairly new to the game and only owns 3 guns so far, a .30-30 Marlin, a 10/22 Ruger and a basic pump shotgun.  I'll try to open his eyes a bit with a variety of guns to test fire.  I'm taking up the .40-90 Ballard, the .40-82 High Wall, a Danish RB in 8x58R, a large action Martini in .338 / .303 British (a rebore by Ron Smith in Alberta), a pattern 1914 Enfield in .303 British, a Springfield Armory Garand in '06, and an M14 in .308 Win.  That should be enough to keep him busy for a little while!
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Reply #26 - Jul 23rd, 2016 at 7:34pm
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A very well thought out assortment of actions and calibers.
He's sure to have some fun and learn quite a bit.
  

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Re: Winchester 1885 High Wall in .40-82 WCF
Reply #27 - Jul 24th, 2016 at 3:58pm
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A friend of mine had an original HIWALL in 40-82. The barrel was in perfect condition. Someone reading these pages may be the current owner of that rifle. I bought these loading dies along with the rest of his loading tools from his daughter when he passed away. The two cartridges on the left are 40-82, lead and nickel. The two cartridges on the right are both Kynoch, one a 450 Nitro and the other 500 BP EXRESS. I fired the double in the 500. The recoil was awesome.
  
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Reply #28 - Jul 24th, 2016 at 11:38pm
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Finally shot this one of mine today and it looks like it will shoot well.  It's shooting about the same groups as my old 1886 used to shoot.  About 2 1/2" to 3" with 35 grains of IMR3031, a quarter sheet of toilet tissue, and then filled to the base of the bullet with bulk yellow cornmeal.  (Without the filler you get terrible hang fires and huge velocity spreads ... with the filler good groups and consistent velocities.  The load came from an old article written by Mike Venturino and it WORKS.)  Didn't really have time to concentrate on serious groups since I was hosting and coaching my young next door neighbour and brought several rifles for him to test fire.  I'll go up on my own one day and shoot this rifle a bit more seriously and see what it can do ...
  

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