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30-357max
Jun 13th, 2016 at 10:58am
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Hello all, I have a bunch of 357max brass. I want to neck them down to .32 cal. Tapered walled. What would the name of that be? I ran a few of them through a 32-40 sizing die. They look pretty cool and my Darr bullet fits right in with a bit of tension. Is there a reamer out there?(name?) Or. Do i have to have one made?  Thanks  Plumloco
  
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Re: 30-357max
Reply #1 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:15am
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The 357 Maximum case is the parent case to a few BP era cartridges but, non ever had a .319 - .321 groove. The BP groove diameters were approximently .309 - .312.

What people are using in .321 barrels, are 32 Miller long, a tapered cartridge, one using a 223 body and 32 neck or the shortened (1.47) 32 RKS. It also uses the 223 body.

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Reply #2 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:18pm
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Thanks for the information Frank. The title should have been 32-357max. I most likely will only shoot cast with it. So it looks like i may have to have a reamer made. Wanted to see if anybody has done one. Wanted to stay with 32 cal. I have a few molds already in that caliber.
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Re: 30-357max
Reply #3 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 1:06pm
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Hi Plumloco,

Below is a print for the reamer PTG made for my .32RKS.
  

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Re: 30-357max
Reply #4 - Jun 14th, 2016 at 8:41am
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What you are describing is the .32 Miller, sometimes called the Miller Long to separate it from the 32 Miller short. The short was made by taking the long shortening it to .357 mag length and adding a second taper to get it back to .32

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Reply #5 - Jun 14th, 2016 at 10:59am
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I'd look carefully at the reamer that you end up with if you want to use fixed loads in the rifle.
  
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Reply #6 - Jun 15th, 2016 at 1:05pm
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my 32 miller long is1.59 " long and likes 4227 powder and 215 gr bullets just as info   

  

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Reply #7 - Jun 15th, 2016 at 2:40pm
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FWIW,
One can run a 357 Max into a 300 blackout die
to whatever depth one wants and make a very nice 
"30-357" ctg case.   
And then use a 223 reamer to cut chamber body followed by a 
neck/throat cutters to finish.
OR, as you are really looking at a 32-357 max, you can still follow the route of initial case forming, neck up with .32 M die and cut neck and throat to appropriate .32 dimensions
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Reply #8 - Jun 15th, 2016 at 2:44pm
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Even tho there is this "mystique" or Tradition or whatever
for the 32 cal bore,(Yes, I, too have a 32-40)
Personally, I have been looking at the "Rimmed 300 BO"
for a single shot rifle compact smokeless ctg chambering since there are so many 30 cal molds out there as compared to the 32s. 
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Reply #9 - Jun 15th, 2016 at 4:58pm
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So how does the 300 BO compare to the 30 Carb?
  

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Reply #10 - Jun 16th, 2016 at 3:56pm
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I did a volume check on the 300blacekout vs. 30 carbine. My rimmed 300BO (360 Dan Wesson case) holds 4 grains more AA4100 than the 30 carbine . 
Lower case is 30 carbine. 

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Re: 30-357max
Reply #11 - Jun 16th, 2016 at 10:12pm
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plumloco wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:18pm:
Thanks for the information Frank. The title should have been 32-357max. I most likely will only shoot cast with it. So it looks like i may have to have a reamer made. Wanted to see if anybody has done one. Wanted to stay with 32 cal. I have a few molds already in that caliber.
Thanks again  Plumloco


When you order your reamer, i suggest that you design it with .34" long parallel walls in the neck area, rather than continuous  taper, that will hold your bullets better and straight. Before you order that reamer, make a few dummy cases and neck turn the necks a bit to ensure uniform thickness of brass, add 0.002" or 0,003"clearance and that is how the reamer should cut. The straight parallel neck will hold the case and bullet nice and straight. after a bit of fouling. Choose a bullet to match the rifling twist, or the other way around, and then order the throat reamer with a gentle taper that matches the bullet's nose taper.  
That's what i would do.
Wait, i already have, on a .32 x 2" of sorts. 
(because you describe fitting bullets in the case). 
  
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