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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16111 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Broke my Schoyen Ballard Reply #15 - Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 2:15pm	Print Post
	Did a little reshaping on the stock and forearm today to get rid of the geometric shapes on the PG area, and forearm tip. Couldn't go much further, and not have it looked messed up, but it did improve the looks a lot. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Took some off the bottom of the perch belly also, as it didn't flow well near the PG area. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Broke my Schoyen Ballard Reply #16 - Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 9:48pm	Print Post
	very nice

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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Broke my Schoyen Ballard Reply #17 - Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 11:20pm	Print Post
	That stock looks a lot better, Nice work Vall.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16111 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Broke my Schoyen Ballard Reply #18 - Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 9:18am	Print Post
	Thanks! Still needs more sanding, but the general shape is there. Wish the checkering wasn't so deep, as I'd prefer to remove it, and have it done better. But I'll live with it until I stumble across a good used stock set.

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Chuckster Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2232 Location: Colorado Joined: May 15^th, 2008	Re: Broke my Schoyen Ballard Reply #19 - Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:06am	Print Post
	Looks good. Tough job around the checkering. No question, the stock is Maple. Let us know how you match the stain. Chuck


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16111 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Broke my Schoyen Ballard Reply #20 - Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:08am	Print Post
	Chuckster wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:06am: Looks good. Tough job around the checkering. No question, the stock is Maple. Let us know how you match the stain. Chuck That is a big concern Chuck! I plan to sand up to the edge of the checkering to have a sharp break line. But still will have to try various stain colors to see if I can match the existing. If not, I'll just Jasco strip the stocks and do the whole thing over.

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LRF Oldtimer Offline Posts: 591 Location: MN Joined: May 8^th, 2010	Re: Broke my Schoyen Ballard Reply #21 - Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 9:00pm	Print Post
	The hardest part of trying to match the color is because the color is the results of years of darkening due to UV light degradation (for lack of a better word) I think the striping is a good idea and then sand to get back to fresher wood. Good Luck, looks like a fine summer project.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16111 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Broke my Schoyen Ballard Reply #22 - Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:09pm	Print Post
	LRF wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 9:00pm: The hardest part of trying to match the color is because the color is the results of years of darkening due to UV light degradation (for lack of a better word) I think the striping is a good idea and then sand to get back to fresher wood. Good Luck, looks like a fine summer project. I hope it doesn't take the whole summer! I'd like to put it on my schuetzen rifle display at our late August two day collector gun show! In the 1800's old gunsmiths used chromium trioxide to darken wood. I keep a small bottle of the nasty stuff here for repairs. It's pretty good for aging wood to gradually match natural aging. Just have to have a wet cloth handy, as it can go from light yellowish brown to almost black quickly if you don't wet it to stop the reaction. It's also not good to get in contact with your skin when wet!!

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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Broke my Schoyen Ballard Reply #23 - Jun 24^th, 2016 at 1:35am	Print Post
	Vall, You aren't the guy who used to bring a fantastic Stevens schuetzen collection to WAC at Puyallup in the early 90s are you? He was from Oregon, about all I remember.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16111 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Broke my Schoyen Ballard Reply #24 - Jun 24^th, 2016 at 9:50am	Print Post
	Schuetzenmiester wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 1:35am: Vall, You aren't the guy who used to bring a fantastic Stevens schuetzen collection to WAC at Puyallup in the early 90s are you? He was from Oregon, about all I remember. No, not me. I may know the person, as I have a good friend who had a fantastic Stevens single shot collection and often went to Puyallup. Unfortunately he has recently succumbed to dementia, and his fine collection got broken up and sold by the managers of his estate. I've pretty much always had a interest in Marlin Ballards, and lever actions. I set up at Puyallup at the NRA's National Gun Collectors show, and my small display surprisingly won an award. I really just tossed something together to just be there for the event. Didn't expect any notice for the small display of schuetzen rifles, and tools.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16111 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Broke my Schoyen Ballard Reply #25 - Jun 24^th, 2016 at 1:22pm	Print Post
	Took several applications of the CT to match the color, but it ended up very close! (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Now just a few coats of Wipe On Poly, and it should be done.

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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Broke my Schoyen Ballard Reply #26 - Jun 24^th, 2016 at 4:43pm	Print Post
	Great job Vall! Fantastic match, you're clearly not new at this. Aaron

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16111 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Broke my Schoyen Ballard Reply #27 - Jun 25^th, 2016 at 10:34am	Print Post
	Rebel wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 4:43pm: Great job Vall! Fantastic match, you're clearly not new at this. Aaron Thanks Aaron! I have a good friend who's collected percussion rifles for many decades. He's a retired machinist, and does both wood and metal repairs on guns. He mentioned using CT that he gets from Dixie Gun Works many years ago. I had an 1881 Marlin that someone had bleached the wood on, and it brought back a very proper aged, old look in one application. Ever since then I've used it often for repairs that I didn't want to totally restore a complete stock. If I dilute the powder a little more than recommended with water, I can control how dark it gets a bit easier. Sometimes I have to use a little stain also, if the color needs adjusting. This one didn't need any adjusting, as it matched pretty easily. Just about out of my bottle of CT powder, so need to order another $6 bottle from Dixie soon!

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Chuckster Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2232 Location: Colorado Joined: May 15^th, 2008	Re: Broke my Schoyen Ballard Reply #28 - Jun 25^th, 2016 at 10:51am	Print Post
	Beautiful, Vall,. To be honest, did not think it could be matched that well. Learned something, thanks. Chuck


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Broke my Schoyen Ballard Reply #29 - Jun 25^th, 2016 at 2:42pm	Print Post
	I agree with Chuck in his original thoughts and boy was I ever wrong. Outstanding results really does not do your work true justice but its the best I could come up with at the time Vall. Sure is refreshing to see you back sharing and this in another extremely valued bit of knowledge that you have always been so freely willing to share. JLouis
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