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Jun 6th, 2016 at 11:06am
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Was one made?
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Reply #1 - Jun 6th, 2016 at 11:37am
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Yes, the late ones anyway.
  
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Reply #2 - Jun 6th, 2016 at 4:14pm
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Too bad CCI/Speer doesn't supply their shot capsules in 32 cal.
  

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Reply #3 - Jun 6th, 2016 at 4:51pm
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I have a box of old CBC 310 brass crimped shot shells, and the Remington shotgun to go with it.
I wonder if theses shells will work.
I'm looking at what appears to be an 1894 Fav in 32 shot, in pretty good shape. SN # S prefix
  

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Reply #4 - Jun 15th, 2016 at 8:52am
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I have an old box of .32 Long RF shot shells with the wooden shot capsules.
  

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Reply #5 - Jun 16th, 2016 at 8:02pm
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I see the Favorite Model 20 listed in .32 Shot as far back as the 1898 catalog.
  

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Reply #6 - Jun 24th, 2016 at 11:00pm
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Over the past two years, I have reviewed about 200 favorites, mostly by on-line auctions, by "serial number".  I have found four in 32 shot, three were '94's and one a 1915.  The number of 22 shot listed was about the same which on this small sample would be about 2 o/o each with the most popular rifle calibers  as 22, 32, and 25 in that descending order.  This would be skewed as the 22's tended to be more worn out as the larger caliber ones probably were put up due to lack of ammo before the barrels rotted out due to corrosive priming and the 22's were discarded.  Both 32 and 22 RF were referred to as model 20's.  No 25 rf shot (Does it exist?) have surfaced yet.
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Reply #7 - Jun 24th, 2016 at 11:39pm
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James,

Don't see a Telegraphic Code shown to place an order for a Favorite in 25 Shot.
The old WRA catalogs don't show a 25 Shot cartridge available, nor do my Remington and Rem-UMC catalogs. But there were a lot of other ammo suppliers back in those days.
  

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Reply #8 - Jun 25th, 2016 at 11:10am
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coljimmy wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 11:00pm:
...I have found four in 32 shot, three were '94's and one a 1915...James


Not surprising that relatively few of them were sold, as what practical use could they have been put to, besides shooting rats in your barn?  Good sport, no doubt, but the average farm family would probably have found the cost of such a specialized gun unjustifiable, especially when CB caps in a rifled bore would have been equally effective.

I've also heard of ornithologists using similar small bore shotguns to collect small birds for mounting (John Burroughs used a Remington cane gun!), but that would have been a mighty small market for such guns.
 
  
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Reply #9 - Jun 25th, 2016 at 4:42pm
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There was a far larger demand for shot cartridges than most realize.

The 1910 Rem-UMC catalog shows the following shot cartridges available:
     Rimfire Shot loadings -
BB Cap, 22 Long, 32 Long, 38 Short, 38 Long, 44 Short, 44 Long, 44 Henry, 56-50 Spencer, 56-52 Spencer, 56-56 Spencer, 41 Swiss Vetterli
     Centerfire Shot loadings -
22 Winchester, 30 Rook, 32 S&W, 32 S&W Long, 32 Short Colt, 32 Long Colt, 32 Merwin Hulbert & Co, 32 Winchester (4 different versions for the 32-20), 32 Extra Long Ballard, 38 S&W, 38 Short Colt, 38 Long Colt, 38 Extra Long, 38 Winchester (4 different versions for the 38-40), 41 Long Colt, 44 Webley, 44 Evans NM, 44 Long Ballard, 44 Merwin Hulbert & Co, 44 S&W Russian, 44 S&W American, 44 Winchester (4 different versions for the 44-40), 44 XL, 44 Extra Long Wesson, 45 Colt, 45 S&W, 50 Pistol, 32-40, 38-55, 38-56, 40-65, 40-82, 43 Egyptian, 11mm Mauser, 45-60 Win, 45-70 Govt, 45-75 Win, 45-90 Win, 50-50 Govt carbine, 50-70 Govt, 50-95 Win, 50-110 Win.

In the early 1950's, Jim Harvey of Lakeville Arms was converting large frame revolvers (he preferred using the N-frame S&W) to use shot cartridges, but the BATF shut that down in the mid 1950's.
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Reply #10 - Jun 25th, 2016 at 5:15pm
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Wow, that's a lot of calibers!
Thanks for the info, I would have thought many less.
Is M frame a typo?
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Reply #11 - Jun 25th, 2016 at 6:01pm
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Aaron,

Yep, fat-fingered that typo, and have corrected it to N-frame.
Harvey reamed out the cylinder throats, reamed out the rifling and cut an integral choke into the barrel.
  

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Re: Favorite in 32 shot
Reply #12 - Jun 26th, 2016 at 9:09am
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Speer shot capsules have been hard to find. I have loaded a lot of 38 Special shot cartridges using Cork wads from Walters, no shot capsule, works well. Drop of White glue over the top wad to seal. No reason same method would not work in a .32

Other tip is use small shot. limited capacity even # 9 not many pellets in a load. I offered to load smaller shot if my buddies that want snake loads would buy a bag. They stick with 9's  Deadly on 10 foot snakes ( distance not size) though.  Make up for pellets by giving him more than one shot.

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Re: Favorite in 32 shot
Reply #13 - Jun 26th, 2016 at 12:17pm
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boats wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 9:09am:
...I offered to load smaller shot if my buddies that want snake loads would buy a bag. They stick with 9's  Deadly on 10 foot snakes ( distance not size) though.  Make up for pellets by giving him more than one shot.

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Gee, what's the mania among your buddies for killing snakes?  Hardly a test of marksmanship.  I'd prefer to pick them up and look at them; like the time I picked up a rare Coral snake (only one I've ever seen before or since), and tempted by its beautiful colors, stretched it around my hat to see if it might be long enough to make a hatband--it was not, and just as well, as the colors would undoubtedly have faded.  (Takes a snake about twice as long as you'd think to make a good hatband.) 

Not saying ALL deserve such consideration: Cottonmouths are ugly & aggressive (I once killed a very large one by spearing its head with the sharp tip of my wading staff when I was flyfishing in Missouri), and in parts of the Southwest, like my grandfather's place in south Texas, Rattlers were so numerous that it was impossible to kill them fast enough.  (Only a HUGE rattler, by the way, has enough meat on it to be worth the trouble of dressing out, which I've also done.)  But I suspect anyone so fearful as to go to the trouble of carrying "snake loads" would be too ignorant to distinguish between harmless and dangerous.
  
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Reply #14 - Jun 26th, 2016 at 3:50pm
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If you worked Bird Dogs in the South you would kill every rattler you saw. One got a friend of mines dog recently.   

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