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Reply #60 - Jun 7th, 2016 at 6:27pm
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There are some beautiful examples of Dave Higginbotham's work posted.  I hope more rifles keep showing up.  #190 is an outstanding example.
  

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Reply #61 - Jun 7th, 2016 at 7:37pm
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Wish Mr. Higginbotham had incorporated a traditional straight bar extractor with retaining screw version, instead of only the rotary extractor, which #1 sporting rifles never had.
  
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Reply #62 - Jun 8th, 2016 at 12:35pm
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nineteen76, 

You sure have an outstanding collection of Lone Star rolling blocks.

I see there was one recently sold at auction on 4 June 2016:   

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I wondered if you were the successful bidder.

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Reply #63 - Jun 8th, 2016 at 8:44pm
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Thank you Powderman.
No, I was not the bidder on that Rifle, though I believe the seller posted on Shiloh's forum that the rifle brought $1500.00 and after the Auction House took their share he wound up with $1200.00. I assume the $1725.00 included the buyers fee, which tells me the Auction House made a tidy $525.00 on just that one rifle.
Too bad, I would have gladly paid the buyer $1725.00 for the rifle and I know for a fact he could have gotten $2500.00 for that rifle elsewhere.
These Auction Houses are a rip-off for sure and for certain.
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Reply #64 - Jun 8th, 2016 at 9:26pm
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It was a good price for that rifle, even though it went through and auction house. To bad the seller did not post it on one of the single shot rifle forums though.
  
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Reply #65 - Jun 8th, 2016 at 9:48pm
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The list of Dave's rifles is growing, 31 so far ...
* 2 identified from a ad in the Single Shot Exchange.  Have one with serial and the seller will let me know about the other one.
* Made contact with the Columbus TX match director which is near Dave's home in Conroe TX.  He owns 2 and many of the club members own Dave's rifle.  He will survey the members for their serials & dates and let me know.
  
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Reply #66 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 9:48am
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Just my opinion, but I think the auction houses sometimes make a fatal error when grouping certain types of guns all into one auction. They flood the auction with a bunch of single shot rifles with hopes it will bring out a lot of buyers with single shot rifles as their main interest. That part works, and it's great for the buyers who have deep pockets. But by putting so many nice, similar guns in one auction, it dilutes the waters. Bidders have usually got a limited amount of funds to spend, so they wont bid on every gun, or they wont bid very high in order to ensure they spread their buying money over whatever they most desire. Consequently the resulting prices all tend to go lower than if the auction had less of the same type of gun.
I don't begrudge the auction houses making their share of the ending price. Sellers aren't forced to use them, and the fees are not hidden from sellers, so buyers knowingly consign with them. But I know several sellers who were surprised to see their guns sold at an auction that included a large collection of similar guns, and felt it hurt their particular gun(s) sales.
  

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Reply #67 - Jun 14th, 2016 at 4:43pm
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Finally dug my 38-50 Lone Star RB out from the back of the safe and it is S/N #232. Had forgotten what a nice rifle Dave built. I'll get some measurements and pic's up in a day or two. So nice I could almost shoot it instead of my Hepburns. Dave certainly knew how to build a rifle.
  

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Reply #68 - Jun 14th, 2016 at 6:25pm
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Be careful, you might talk yourself out of selling it this summer or are just baiting me.   Grin

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Reply #69 - Jun 14th, 2016 at 8:32pm
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Both. Wink Grin
The barrel is 28" long, 1.04" at the muzzle and 1.12" at the receiver with my digital vernier and weighs 10#3oz without sights. Is d&t'd on what measures with my tape as a 7.20" center for scope blocks. Has a dovetail for a front sight. I don't know the barrel maker and the fellow I bought it from did not know what Dave put on for him. Pistol grip stock and schnabel forearm. I remember now that the reason I haven't bothered with it was I was going to have it checkered this fall. Here's a pic. I'll take a couple of full length pic's tomorrow when I have more time to 'tinker'. My 38-50 Hepburn weights 10#2oz with a 26" barrel. Couldn't be much closer.
  

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Reply #70 - Jun 14th, 2016 at 9:59pm
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I'm beginning to drool.  Of course you have to remember it's a fairly high serial # compared to my #0001.Grin Cheesy
  

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Reply #71 - Jun 15th, 2016 at 2:05pm
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Here are a couple of pic's. As you can see, I'm not too good at this photography stuff. The wood for the stock on the second pic looks nothing like the photo. But, I'm not going thru the hassle of shooting another pic unless a buyer needs a better one.
  

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Reply #72 - Jun 16th, 2016 at 1:51pm
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Dave also built some gove style rolling blocks.
As i remember the first was built for katha. I do not remember the calibre .
He also built a 50-70 r.b. Pistol it was a blast to shoot.
Dave was also known for his love of muzzle loaders. He apparently built a lot of them years ago.
I know that he used many different barrels, badger, green mountain. He barreled a 45-70  win high wall for me with a gm barrel they had given him to test. It shot very well.
  
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Reply #73 - Sep 23rd, 2016 at 10:26am
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Thank you for adding me to the group.
By way of introduction, I am a Firearms Engraver and used to do engraving for Dave Higginbotham at Lone Star Rifle before his untimely death.
  
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Reply #74 - Sep 23rd, 2016 at 1:07pm
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Mark, welcome.  I hope you have some interesting tales and valuable information that you might want to share.

John Boy, thanks for reviving the Lone Star thread.  Hope to see more Lone Stars turn up. 

I'm on another forum where there are several Lone Star shooters. I've mentioned this LS thread, hoping to get some more interest stirred up.

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