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Re: Long range / Heavier bullets ?
Reply #15 - May 5th, 2016 at 1:31am
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gunlaker wrote on May 4th, 2016 at 9:45pm:
Cuslog, technically Swiss buttplates are not BPCR/BPTR legal, but don't worry.  The match directors use "loose NRA" rules.  I've never figured out what that means, but I do know that several shooters use rifles that are a little overweight for instance.  Like me for instance.  My .40-65 is a little over the 12lb 2 oz weight limit.Smiley


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I think that means if it looks legal from across the parking lot it is  Roll Eyes  I never  shot a lot of silhouette matches, but the only place my rifles were ever measured and weighed was at Raton. It was legal without the heel sight base  Shocked  close eh?  Embarrassed
  
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Reply #16 - May 5th, 2016 at 5:38am
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I feel that rules are rules, they are designed to keep everyone's equipment on a pretty much level field. That being said, I also feel that is someone shows up to compete for their first time and the rifle is not legal, they should be told what is and isn't legal with their rifle and then let them compete any way.  I don't think that there would be a faster way to turn anyone off from enjoying a sport than have them drive X number of miles/hours to get to a match and then be sent back home. 
It if is just a matter of a hooked buttplate, I don't' see that as such  a great advantage that a brand new shooter is going to show up at his first match and clean every ones clock. We need every new shooter that we can get, a little rule bending never hurt anyone, I feel. If you shoot and have a really good time, then you will go home and make the changes to your equipment to make it legal and come back and have more fun in the future. 
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Reply #17 - May 5th, 2016 at 8:55am
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I think you said it perfectly Sam.

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Reply #18 - May 5th, 2016 at 10:57am
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Agree

When I was match director our club never turned anybody away due equipment, as long as it was safe. AR Rimfire Clones excepted. We did get guys show up and want to shoot them in Single Shot matches.  As a rule they are  not safe shooters and kick brass on the others

Shooting different disciplines you run afoul of many rules. My oldest CPA has been butt stocked three times due to match rules. 

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Reply #19 - May 5th, 2016 at 11:10am
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Sorry guys, I got my terminology wrong -- its a Crescent butt plate, not Swiss.
I don't expect THAT to be a problem.
I've shot in lots of Bullseye pistol as well as Trap matches and always found most people to be very accommodating and welcoming to new shooters - no reason to expect anything different with this bunch. Wink
  
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Reply #20 - May 5th, 2016 at 2:37pm
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I had always thought longer range demanded heaver bullet..and for the faster twists used today it's probably true.  However, what about the original slow twists used in the Ballard for example?  I have an original Ballard A-1 Mid-Range .40-63 Everlasting, with a 20-1 twist.  It has been recommended by a shooter with a whole lot more experience than I that for 100yd. shooting, a bullet 1.17" would be optimum.  For 500yds, a bullet 1.1" long and for 1000yds, a bullet of 1".  I thought he was all wet..but now I think he is right as the bullet will be slowing down on out there and the shorter bullet will still be stabilized as opposed to the longer.  This is for paper-patched bullets by the way.  What are your thoughts on this?
  
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