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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: An early Favorite Reply #45 - May 17^th, 2016 at 6:36am	Print Post
	coljimmy wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 11:59pm: Thanks for the hint, mine, s/n 51697, has the last three stamped across the lower inside of the buttplate upside down. The plate measures 0.102-0.104 thick and looks like it was case hardened on the inside. The bare wood under the plate appears to be numbered with a faint 69 with some sort of marker, room for a 7 but not visible. Real quality not seen nowadays. James I have to admit that I've long looked down on Favorites as just cheap toys, but the one that started this thread has changed my mind.

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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: An early Favorite Reply #46 - May 17^th, 2016 at 9:26am	Print Post
	uscra112 wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 6:36am: I have to admit that I've long looked down on Favorites as just cheap toys, but the one that started this thread has changed my mind. You doubted that "it is simply impossible to make more accurate shooting barrels than are on this rifle," as asserted in the Favorite ad shown in Plate 2 of Boy's SSR? No need then, it follows, to keep saving up for a No. 52 or 54, except to get the engraving & nicer wood.


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Bent_Ramrod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1468 Location: Southern Arizona Joined: Feb 8^th, 2006	Re: An early Favorite Reply #47 - May 17^th, 2016 at 10:46am	Print Post
	Allyn Tedmon's writeup on the Favorite in Grant's More Single Shot Rifles should set anyone straight on the quality of the little rifle. They were made to a price, but were not cheap toys. That's why the Stevens company is my favorite marque. They did not cultivate dangerous-game hunters and did not hanker after military contracts (at least before they were bought out by some soulless conglomerate). They went after the market that included plinkers, target shooters, woods loafers and gun-crazy kids. Single shot rifles were not just something to plug into a repeating rifle product line; they were Stevens' product line. They set their prices to the affordable level and put the quality where it was needed. They thought everybody should have a single-shot rifle. How cool is that?


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: An early Favorite Reply #48 - May 17^th, 2016 at 11:53am	Print Post
	Would appear Stevens spent a larger portion of their advertising budget on Favorites, & other boy's rifles, than on all their other rifles combined. (Shotguns are a different matter.) The following are all full-page, large-format, ads from publications like Youth's Companion.


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: An early Favorite Reply #49 - May 17^th, 2016 at 12:27pm	Print Post
	Bent_Ramrod wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 10:46am: Allyn Tedmon's writeup on the Favorite in Grant's More Single Shot Rifles should set anyone straight on the quality of the little rifle. They were made to a price, but were not cheap toys. That's why the Stevens company is my favorite marque. They did not cultivate dangerous-game hunters and did not hanker after military contracts (at least before they were bought out by some soulless conglomerate). They went after the market that included plinkers, target shooters, woods loafers and gun-crazy kids. Single shot rifles were not just something to plug into a repeating rifle product line; they were Stevens' product line. They set their prices to the affordable level and put the quality where it was needed. They thought everybody should have a single-shot rifle. How cool is that? That about sums it up for me, too. I've now got at least a dozen Model 44, 45, 108, 47, and 44 1/2 rifles, plus two Favorites. One is a 1915 that I rebarreled. From that experience I can see that this early square-corner one is a lot better made. I think I mentioned before that the case hardening of the breechblock is so deep that I had to break it with a carbide tool before I could ream for the oversize link pins I installed. Didn't have to do that on that 1915, nor any of the Model 44s I've done. @Redsetter - Thanks for posting those old ads ! Love to see that kind of stuff.
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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: An early Favorite Reply #50 - May 17^th, 2016 at 12:50pm	Print Post
	Redsetter wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 9:26am: uscra112 wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 6:36am: I have to admit that I've long looked down on Favorites as just cheap toys, but the one that started this thread has changed my mind. You doubted that "it is simply impossible to make more accurate shooting barrels than are on this rifle," as asserted in the Favorite ad shown in Plate 2 of Boy's SSR? No need then, it follows, to keep saving up for a No. 52 or 54, except to get the engraving & nicer wood. I confess to have been lumping them in with the Hopkins & Allen, Remington, Flobert, and Davenports which I have collected in years past. Mea culpa.

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ledball Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1011 Location: syracuse, ohio Joined: Nov 20^th, 2009	Re: An early Favorite Reply #51 - May 17^th, 2016 at 2:27pm	Print Post
	In the 1940's if you sold a wagon-load of cloverline salve they would give you a Stevens Favorite. Mom & Dad ended up buying a lot of salve. Ledball


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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: An early Favorite Reply #52 - May 21^st, 2016 at 10:32pm	Print Post
	Given comparable condition, are the early square cut Favorites more valuable than the later models? One with little finish sold as part of a pair (with a later, brown patina model) for $240 today.

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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: An early Favorite Reply #53 - May 21^st, 2016 at 10:36pm	Print Post
	Rebel wrote on May 21^st, 2016 at 10:32pm: Given comparable condition, are the early square cut Favorites more valuable than the later models? One with little finish sold as part of a pair (with a later, brown patina model) for $240 today. I don't think many potential buyers know what they are. I bought the one that started this thread for $300, and I was the only bidder.

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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: An early Favorite Reply #54 - May 21^st, 2016 at 10:59pm	Print Post
	Seems like I might have blown it then, I bid $230 and thought that was enough given the condition of both of the 22's I'm still thinking about that 25-21 I missed.

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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: An early Favorite Reply #55 - May 21^st, 2016 at 11:06pm	Print Post
	Rebel wrote on May 21^st, 2016 at 10:59pm: Seems like I might have blown it then, I bid $230 and thought that was enough given the condition of both of the 22's I'm still thinking about that 25-21 I missed. Condition is everything. That $300 got me a rifle that with very little work is almost as good as new.

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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: An early Favorite Reply #56 - May 22^nd, 2016 at 10:04am	Print Post
	Rebel wrote on May 21^st, 2016 at 10:32pm: Given comparable condition, are the early square cut Favorites more valuable than the later models? One with little finish sold as part of a pair (with a later, brown patina model) for $240 today. Where the hell was that??? I've never seen ANY gun sell on Gunbroker that wasn't at least moderately, if not grossly, overpriced.


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: An early Favorite Reply #57 - May 22^nd, 2016 at 4:01pm	Print Post
	True, about 95% of their listings are dealers with stars in their eyes, (or greed in their hearts), but every so often a bargain shows up. Usually an individual who wants to SELL, rather than wait months or years for the Greater Fool. Gotta troll the site thoroughly at least once a week to spot 'em .

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Fazer Full Member Offline Posts: 248 Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010	Re: An early Favorite Reply #58 - May 22^nd, 2016 at 5:23pm	Print Post
	Quote: I've never seen ANY gun sell on Gunbroker that wasn't at least moderately, if not grossly, overpriced. I think part of that, as far as private one time sellers is, they look through the adds and see something similar for sale. Naturally think theirs is better so it goes on at a bit higher price. They don't realize that the ones they are gauging their price on have been being relisted for the last 2 years because it is over priced for what it is.


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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: An early Favorite Reply #59 - May 22^nd, 2016 at 6:14pm	Print Post
	Redsetter wrote Where the hell was that??? I've never seen ANY gun sell on Gunbroker that wasn't at least moderately, if not grossly, overpriced. Kramers Auction I should say $240 + 20% (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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