This a continuation of a conversation posted in another topic that was not directly related so I have moved it here for further input.

DW when Coors backed out of the mathes at Golden Colo. they developed the Coors Range at the NRA Center outside of Raton NM so those matches could continue and it was then handed over to the ISSA. The National Event is still being held on the Coors Range on a yearly basis and all are welcome to come. Is this not just a continuation of the mathes that Coors held in the so called Golden years. What exactly would one be expecting to be different from what the ISSA already has to offer by developing a new Grand Schuetzenfest event? Accomodating a big group of shooters is not a problem, its centerally located, really nice prizes are awarded yet thier attendance has been way down so what is it exactly that I am missing here that Coors offered that the ISSA currently does not? The only thing that comes to my mind is the celebrity match and all of the free beer so I just don't get it could someone please point it all out to myself and this group.

JLouis

I can understand the possible need for promotion and advertisment but the current match hasn't required outside funding that I am aware of and the prizes and sponsorship have always been an existing part of it. RKS Barrels, Russ Weber Seaters, CPA, Hodgdon, Brownells, Starline Brass, Sierra, Midway etc.

Hopefully Randy Wright will also provide some input, maybe that has changed and he would be the one to know as a poster on this site who has been actively involved in the ISSA association. 

It would seem if something is broke per-say it might be able to be fixed? Currently there are not enough in this sport to create another seperation by proposing a match that could have ill affects on the current attendance that keeps these matches up and running. There are not many who could afford or get the time off to attend two Big National Events in a year so one or both will suffer by doing so and hopefully it would not kill the current one for good.

JLouis

Thanks Ken!

JLouis

If you want to know more about a shoot like this, read these threads. It also will tell you how many can be expected, JUST on this forum.

forum.assra.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1449276702

forum.assra.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1449276702/15

If you want this beloved sport and the rifles that make it to die out, just continue on with your heads beneth the sand, saying it can't be done, it can't be done.

You don't know that and how said it will be to future shooters to say "I wonder why no one tried to save it". So sad

Come on guys, a little many times over, makes a lot. Donate things to sell and the funds go to a shoot, send in money in a escrow account to make it happen, volunteer your help and prizes. Just do SOMETING positive, please.

Frank

Frank where does your group shoot thier ISSA Regional Event at in Oregon? 

JLouis

For the most part, I am happy with things the way they are.  Good folks, competitive shooting, and a lot of fun.  People shoot schuetzen and BPCR because they truly love the sport and like the people they shoot with. Bigger is not always better.  I do wish, however, I would have been old enough to have been involved in the Coors days.
take care, Cody

CodyS wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 8:54pm:


But all the shooters with scores in the ISSA and ASSRA isn't more than about 300 is it?

Cody I could not agree more. Sometimes there are those who mimic our current government that seems to care more about those outside of this country and the thier health and wellfare instead of their own that being us! If a clubs Scuhetzen matches are lacking attendance or there is not a Regional Event offered in your area should not that be the first priority before trying to move onto bigger and better things. One should be more concerned about taking care of and growing thier own area first. I hear the referance quite often build it and they will come about the proposed big Schuetzen Event when it should in reality pertain to establishing some highly attended local matches and establishing a regional event in the area that they live in first and formost. The big event should be having matches at ones own club on a regular basis that is what will keep this sport alive. If someone does not have anywhere to shoot these matches in his own area on a regular basis what would make anyone think they would suddenly pack pack their Schuetzen rifle, hit the road, spend a large sum of money and travel hundreds of miles to shoot in Grand Event they didn't even have a place to go to gain some competitive experiance first? The regional matches I speak of are ISSA and they are the pre- qualifiers for thier yearly International Schuetzen event at Raton NM. You do not have to qualify to attend it is how they rank you so when you arrive are you are shooting with a group of like abilities based on the regional scores. If one has not shot a regional he or she will be placed in the highest ranking group that is why establishing a regional event is important to ones group so those in your group that might attend can be ranked properly giving them a fair chance to win thier fights by competiting with those with the like abilities. A regional does not have to be shot at your home club and we have some that come to ours generally the closest one offered. You can also shoot several regionals a year quite popular for the retired group of mostly retired regional shooting travelers as their averages is what determines ones ranking and its a great way to visit and shoot with others accross the country and ending up at Raton to shoot the big event.

I also need to make a correction the ISSA event at Raton NM is not a National Event it is an International Event and I apogize for my error.

JLouis