frnkeore wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 2:09am:

Some of the guys shot our group match at TRR with BP.  Either John or Marv won it again the Smokeless crowd at least once.  I'll go through the results later tonginhg and see what it was measured at.

John Schauf's would have been BP, he never shot anything but at TRR.  Was Simon's 5 or 10 shots, We used to alternate back and forth  spring and fall.  I don't think he ever shot anything but BP either. He only shot there a couple times.  I remember some one with a really good group beating the smokeless boys with BP.  If John was 3rd, it must  have been Simon. 

I doubt if I shoot the 600.  I need to get a 40-65 scoped and shooting and see if the recoil triggers a migraine? After a decade of nearly 24/7, I'm a bit cautions 

I emailed him to see what he shot.  I'm sure he shot those matches with BP.

John Schauf's  1.343" 5 shot group with BP at the fall 2012 TR&R match is less than MOA.

Just to make sure I have got this completely clear, John Schauf's 1.343"group was definitely shot at 200 yds using black powder and iron sights, correct ?.
Mike. 
Just checking.

Mike,

You are correct.  John has only ever shot BP at the Tacoma matches and never with scope.  I believe he was using a CPA in 40-65.   

Jack

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The last time, here in Oregon at JSSS, in '93.

Frank

This is a lot like asking who the best boxer of all time was or who was best baseball team of all time. Technology changes and creates opportunities. There still has to be someone who can see those opportunities’ and has the talent to take advantage of them. 
In bench rest for example, when I first joined it was accepted fact that you could only make good scores with traditional flat pointed bullets. At that time also you could count the 250s on one hand and Rowland’s 10 shot group had never been beaten. Now we use spitzer bullets, small cartridges, bench rest stocks and 250s while not commonplace are not rare either. Rowland’s group has been beaten at least three times that I know of.

40 Rod