Im probably the cause of this thread. Recently acquired my second Browning 40/65. Shot it on Friday to get 100 and 200 sight settings. Shot in comp on Saturday 13 shots 10 to count at both distances. Shot a very rough 100 at 100m Then shot the target below at 200m. 10 shots only marked at 100.2. A 6 o'clock breeze with left and right shifts at about 15 degrees. Tricky.
I used the exact same load as I do in the other Browning.
Load is 64.5 grains of Wano 2P, Muron Russian lr primer and a PJ tapered money bullet. No scope no nitro (we don't even shoot  duplex)

Its a pistol target often called the "French" target 2 inch x, 4 inch bull. Group is 3.2"at the widest.

Joe
Rowland's 10-shot, .722 group was shot with a duplex load of DuPont No.1 smokeless as priming charge, the rest of the case filled with Hazard's FG black. His Pope Ballard was muzzle loaded. That load is according to one source I have come across that I think is authoritative (it is not however the only version of what load Rowland used). 
That is also the same suggested duplex load in Pope's 1899 catalog for his muzzle loading barrels. Pope further expanded his suggested loads by including the same priming charge, using FG King's Semi-Smokeless as an alternative to black.

Pardon  my ignorance but I thought the 200 yd Iron sight target was black, I would have thought it hard to see a red target clearly with aperture sights.
Just to make it perfectly clear for the benefit of Macca Mr Pinney shot a 250 at 200 yds using black powder and iron sights,  correct .
Thanks for all the replys.
Mike.

Mick B wrote on Apr 17^th, 2016 at 9:15pm:


The Black targets are easier to see with Irons...but, at least for me, I can't see the holes in the black at 200...

Terry

Thank you all again, I'm finally getting somewhere at last. What I probably should have asked was what was the best ever group shot with black powder, not the highest score. I thought I had made the black powder bit clear but it seems to have caused a little confusion. A bit like bench rest really where only the group is important, not if you get it in the middle or not. For the purpose of clarification I will list the criteria again.
# 1  Black Powder only, no duplex loads.
# 2  Shot off the bench.
# 3  Group 
# 4  Apeture sights. 

Hopefully this makes my question abundantly clear.
Mike.

There are no group matches shot with iron sights that I know of but, a score of 247, as Jack Odor shot, will have to be under 3.0" (24 ring is 3"), probably closer to 2.0 - 2.25".

If anyone has a picture of the Odor target, I'd be happy to scale it.

Frank

Mike here is one of my best straight black powder targets.  It was shot at 223 yards.  There are 12 shots ( including the first shot down a clean bore ).  Nine of them went into under 2" center to center, but there were a couple of flyers too unfortunately.

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Chris.