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Wow....what have they done here??????
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It doubles as a canoe paddle. Quite versatile.
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3800.00 dollars. Nice case colors on the action.
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I especially like the fine inletting between the receiver and the "customed order factory order unusually walnut butt" [sic].
Don't see work like that on every Stevens you run across (thankfully).
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It doubles as a canoe paddle. Quite versatile.
I don't think you could paddle a canoe with that. The lack of control would send you in circles at best, probably just cause a tip over
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This is a joke listing, right ? PLEASE, tell me it's a joke listing.
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Well, you guy's don't know as much as you think! It's a "fiddle" stock. It's for a type of Schuetzen-style shooting originating in the Blue Ridge Mountains area of Kentucky and Tennessee, and in parts of West Virginia. Just hold the rifle just like playing the fiddle, hence the name. The 90-degree sight is missing, otherwise you would have easily deduced the proper horizontal hold and "L" sight-line. It makes shooting with the strong crosswinds of the Applichian mountains a lot easier. The breech-loading tool looks and handles almost like "violin bow."
I bet you guys don't even know about the "banjo" pistol-stock. It was primarily used for duels in rural Arkansas. I think there is a tune or music- piece about them.
You guys believe me, right?
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Oh, I believe the stocks were usually made of a certain type of maple wood...
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I can’t decide who has contributed more mistakes to the ad. It was certainly placed by someone who had no knowledge of what he has. As opposed to who ever did the stock work that had no sence of proportion or style. I guess he was trying to make a Schoyen-style stock. And by the way that’s no canoe paddle ask Leadball.
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Sure, I believe, just like the old Phil Och's song.
I have the optics, should anyone purchase this fine weapon,
it's a Facker scope with Uturtle mounts.
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See, we "rebels" know these rare weapons.
Rebel, are the mounts left- handed, i.e., adjustments are reversed for "lefties". Oh, and it's pronounced "Faquier," French designer.
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Different Facker, this one was a protege of J. Uturtle until he went off on his own, selling pornographic balloons and reverse optics .
Somewhere, I have the famous pic of Facker and Parkenfarker.
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Look where the palmrest is located, this belonged to one long-armed fellow. I like my canoe paddle buttstock much better after seeing this one. Ledball
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marlinguy wrote
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ledball wrote
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Look where the palmrest is located, this belonged to one long-armed fellow. I like my canoe paddle buttstock much better after seeing this one. Ledball
The Stevens experts might comment for sure, but I think it's a Favorite style action, and not a 44 1/2? If so, that might explain the need to move the palm rest point forward for an adult sized shooter?
The Stevens diamond on the left side of the receiver only appeared after WW1, yes? And the first and last pictures look to me to be two different rifles.
Wants Paypal payment with no other options. Which makes me suspicious. No other listings. Phone number is a landline at an address six or seven ZIP codes away from 90016.
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Because the photos are so (purposely?) uninformative, I may be wrong about the following; and if so, I'll surely be corrected.
First, while the action does appear to have a Stevens-style removable lower tang fitted with double-sets triggers, what screws and pins I can see suggest that the action is NOT a 44-1/2. Moreover, it's my memory that the action's "trade mark" stamp was not applied until after WWI, at which time the 44-1/2 action was gone.
In short, I think it's at best a 44 action.
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It is a Stevens 44 1/2, not a favorite. It is also very sad. Why can't Bubba keep his hands off of tools. If not that then work on boats, that way his ideas would simply sink and the civilized world wouldn't have to look at them.
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marlinguy wrote
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LONG RANGE wrote
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It is a Stevens 44 1/2, not a favorite. It is also very sad. Why can't Bubba keep his hands off of tools. If not that then work on boats, that way his ideas would simply sink and the civilized world wouldn't have to look at them.
That bottom picture sure doesn't look like the profile of my 44 1/2 Walnut Hill! Looks like a 44 action to my eyes! That extra screw on the left side, below the chamber is not found on a 44 1/2!
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The extra screw is found on 44 and Favorites, not the 44 1/2.
That extra screw, though not common,
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44 1/2s chambered in 22 RF that used the Stevens kicking extractor (ejector).
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Errhhh guys,..................
With the vast nautical wisdom acquired in the middle of Nevada, I have determined that the object on the rifle is not a palm rest. It's an oar lock.
The above is why Joe hasn't said he wants it "bad".
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I had forgotten about 44-1/2s with a kicking extractor. So, having reviewed the auction pictures again, the crux for me is that the lever appears to be pivoting on a pin rather than a screw; if so, it's a 44-1/2.
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Bill,
Looking at the enlarged LH and RH view pictures, my eyes don't see a screw slot in the end of the lever pin.
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Appears to be a 44 1/2.
Shorter breech block, higher sidewalls, correct pins and screws with ejector.....?
The rest of it........ Weird.
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"special order"
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Bill,
Looking at the enlarged LH and RH view pictures, my eyes don't see a screw slot in the end of the lever pin.
That's the point - i.e., since there's no screw slot, the lever pivoting on a pin rather than a machine screw and the action is therefore a 44-1/2 rather than a 44.
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Why does the right sidewall look like a 44? Cut down for access under a scope?
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The right side of the action does not look like a Stevens 44. If you will look closely you can see how the side wall on the 44-1/2 slopes upward while the 44 does not. The side wall on the 44 does not support the breech block as high as the side wall does on the 44-i/2. Gentleman, it is a 44-1/2. Live with it.
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Phil,
I don't think the right sidewall has been cut down.
As Long Range says, it still has the 44 1/2 "slope".
And if you set a 44 1/2 rifle in your lap and rotate it to the approximate angle shown in the RH view picture, the other 44 1/2 "lines" (ignoring the buttstock, of course) seem to match up pretty well.
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"Special order" Looks like a 44 1/2 on one side and a 44 on the other.
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It looks to me like a rare Stevens Parkenfarker special. The lines, the workmanship This all screams Parkenfarker.
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Seller:
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2716 S Palm Grove Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90016
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Looks like a 44 1/2 Parkenfarkerized by an experience HiWall Smallbore mechanic
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It's definetly a 44 1/2. The octagon R/S flat gets lost in the shadow & appears as a deeper curve on the side of the breech block, if you look closely at the L/S view you can see the curve of the block going from side to side & it's definetly not a factory job. If the price was right I'd buy it, reshape the butt after fitting it to the action & maybe make a set of pistol grips, although the wood looks like it came from the end of an apple crate. As far as the lever goes, it looks like a standard S-lever with finger grips soldered on, something done frequently back in the day. If it's got a fine bore it's probably worth about $750. ...MIKE...
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