Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 Send TopicPrint
Normal Topic Pyrodex (Read 3382 times)
MAD MIKE
Oldtimer
*****
Offline



Posts: 655
Location: So Cal
Joined: Oct 31st, 2006
Pyrodex
Mar 29th, 2016 at 5:38pm
Print Post  
     Picked up a couple of cans of Pyrodex labled for rifle, I'm assuming muzzle loader. Would like to try useing it for fixed ammo in my Stevens 44 1/2 model 45. in 25-21. Any suggestions as to how much powder to use.        ...MIKE...
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Quarter_Bore
Oldtimer
*****
Offline



Posts: 817
Location:   
Joined: Dec 16th, 2005
Re: Pyrodex
Reply #1 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 7:17pm
Print Post  
The amount is Zero. I would never use that stuff in a good rifle. I have had a bad experience with it and don't recommend it. Might be alright in an Italian M/L but that's about it.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
slumlord44
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 2850
Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254
Joined: Dec 21st, 2007
Re: Pyrodex
Reply #2 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 8:15pm
Print Post  
What was your bad experience? Been using it for years in front loaders and have used it in cartridges with no issues. Just have to clean it like you would with black powder. I prefer 777 over the original but both work fine. I find it to be less corrosive than black but it is still corrosive.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
sharps4590
Full Member
***
Offline



Posts: 120
Joined: Mar 24th, 2016
Re: Pyrodex
Reply #3 - Mar 30th, 2016 at 7:23am
Print Post  
Personally I don't like Pyrodex, much preferring real black powder.  However, I know a lot of guys who do like it and use it with good result.  Obviously like many other things in life, a matter of taste.

As far as charge weight/volume I assume it would be similar to real black in that the charge comes up to the base of the bullet plus a little extra, 1/10 inch, for compression.  You will have to experiment to see what that charge is.  I do recall that those who use it saying Pyrodex does prefer a bit of compression.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
RCRBanjo
Full Member
***
Offline



Posts: 114
Joined: Nov 25th, 2009
Re: Pyrodex
Reply #4 - Mar 30th, 2016 at 8:06am
Print Post  
Tried Pyrodex in several BPCLR rifles, mostly .45-70, and had terrible accuracy.  Okeh up to 100 yards but after that black is best.  FWIW.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
westerner
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline


deleted posts and threads
record holder.

Posts: 12333
Location: Why, out West of course
Joined: May 29th, 2006
Re: Pyrodex
Reply #5 - Mar 30th, 2016 at 8:16am
Print Post  
Tried it in my 40-65 many years ago. Poof, boom, sputter, did not work at all. I think that's why almost no one uses it in cartridge guns today. 

         Joe.
  

A blind squirrel runs into a tree every once in a while.
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Mick B
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 1007
Location: 19 Ian Nicol St watson ACT aus
Joined: Apr 11th, 2013
Re: Pyrodex
Reply #6 - Mar 30th, 2016 at 6:35pm
Print Post  
I shot Pyrodex for a couple of years in a .50 cal Hawken M/L I had and the accuracy was as good as black in that rifle. Pyrodex is loaded on a volume for volume basis with black, not on a weight basis. As an example in the Hawken 85 gr of 2F gave a M/V of 1800 fps, it only took 66 gr of Pyrodex to get the same M/V.  66 gr of Pyrodex filled the powder measure to the same level as the black.  The other problem with Pyrodex is that it's useless in a flintlock rifle, probably owing to its higher flashpoint.  The main advantage I found with using it was that the barrel fouling did not accumulate during shooting so you don't have to clean between shots, but you must clean the rifle thoroughly after use.
Mike.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
MAD MIKE
Oldtimer
*****
Offline



Posts: 655
Location: So Cal
Joined: Oct 31st, 2006
Re: Pyrodex
Reply #7 - Mar 30th, 2016 at 6:49pm
Print Post  
     Thanks guys for the replies.       ...MIKE... Undecided Undecided Undecided
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1
Send TopicPrint