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Test Firing the 1885 Winchester 32-40 Target Rifle
Mar 28th, 2016 at 10:32pm
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This Easter Sunday, my son and I test fired the new Winchester 32-40 Target Rifle.  As is ritual, we stopped by the dump to scout for suitable boxes for targets.  We hit the Jackpot with a 65" TV box.

Firing Report:   

Cast Bullets & Black Powder - Single 6 shot group of approximately 50" at 50 yards.  Yep you read that correctly, that is 1" per yard.  First photo

Jacketed Bullets & Smokeless @ 50 yards - considerably better.  Second Photo.

Might have been a pretty disappointing day if we didn't happen to have a few jacketed bullets around and a really big box.
  
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Re: Test Firing the 1885 Winchester 32-40 Target Rifle
Reply #1 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 10:54pm
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Well, Bob, I'm pretty sure that if you work on it a little bit, yer gonna be happy shootin' cast out of that nice ol' piece. If it'll put the jacketed in that well, unless the barrel is rough the cast will go too. 
Just as a first guess, since I don't know what the load was, I'd guess bullet size was out of whack. What were you shootin'?
  
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Reply #2 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 8:31am
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FINALLY, a senior shooter who doesn't embarrass me with 1/2" groups at 200 yds!!! Smiley

Now put the sight/scope and stock back on the rifle and try again. Wink
  
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Re: Test Firing the 1885 Winchester 32-40 Target Rifle
Reply #3 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 10:51am
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Unless the bore is really bad, you'll definitely be able to make that .32-40 work well with black powder.

I have an original that shoots pretty well with the Saeco 170gr tapered bullet breech seated with a plugged case.  I use a case full of Fg in that one.   

Were your bullets cast of a hard alloy and maybe a bit undersized, or too long?

Chris.
  
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Reply #4 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 1:27pm
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Gunlaker is absolutely correct. 32-40s will shoot fixed BP loads well. 

Here is a target I shot with my rifle. Off hand of course.  Rifle is capable of 2-3 inch groups at 200 from a bench. No group pictures. 

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Re: Test Firing the 1885 Winchester 32-40 Target Rifle
Reply #5 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 2:15pm
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Joe, 

What bullet are you shooting fixed?  I'm getting ready to load some 32-40 with Swiss 1.5 F and shoot a Hoch 207 gr tapered bullet seated out so it will just touch the rifling.  Ant suggestions?

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Reply #6 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 2:48pm
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That's a nice offhand target!

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Reply #7 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 3:08pm
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Dave, using 40 gr FFF Swiss under a Walters .060 VF wad and 319-289 Hudson style bullet cast about 40-1. Compressing powder until major bullet diameter is completely in the neck. Bullet is a slip fit in the case. No case sizing. 

Gunlaker, thanks, had some real good practice targets that summer. Would like to shoot a string of those in a match.

      

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Reply #8 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 4:09pm
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UtahDave wrote on Mar 29th, 2016 at 2:15pm:
Joe, 

What bullet are you shooting fixed?  I'm getting ready to load some 32-40 with Swiss 1.5 F and shoot a Hoch 207 gr tapered bullet seated out so it will just touch the rifling.  Ant suggestions?

Dave


Dave, I have used a Pope style tapered bullet in my rifle with about the same results. Shot some nice targets with Bud Welsh "nipple snappers" also. 
My Hoch 319-289 mold casts superb bullets with a minimum of fuss. So that's what I use. 

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Re: Test Firing the 1885 Winchester 32-40 Target Rifle
Reply #9 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 4:44pm
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westerner wrote on Mar 29th, 2016 at 1:27pm:
Gunlaker is absolutely correct. 32-40s will shoot fixed BP loads well. 

Here is a target I shot with my rifle. Off hand of course.  Rifle is capable of 2-3 inch groups at 200 from a bench. No group pictures. 

       Joe.

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Reply #10 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 5:07pm
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Here's the bullet Dave. 

Will be using Harry's hiwall, Bob. Who knows what will happen. Doubt they have anything to fear from me. 

Been working with Harry's rifle. Has a standard 32-40 chamber but the bore ahead of the chamber measures .324. .322 at the muzzle. Cannot get the correct size bullets to fit the Russ Weber breech seater. Do not have my lathe at the moment so cannot neck ream the chamber. Bit of a bugger but will come up with something. Showed some promise on Sunday breech seating with smokeless. Adding a MVA palm rest helped a ton.

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Re: Test Firing the 1885 Winchester 32-40 Target Rifle
Reply #11 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 10:15pm
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That was an Easter afternoon try to see if it would shoot.
Ammo was a premium offering that I bought at the Helena gun show for $5 a box (for the brass).  One box of cast and one box of jacketed.  The TV box was store bought and I even discovered who had discarded it in the dumpster.  That's the advantage of living in the small towns in God's country.
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Reply #12 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 10:43pm
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But that offhand target looks pretty god Joe  Roll Eyes
  

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Reply #13 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 10:52pm
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Thank's Bob. Yeah it was just a practice target. Iron sights and BP at 240 yards. 

I was on that summer.  Used the same load and rifle at Tacoma. Couldn't shoot my way out of a paper,...........wet paper bag.   Grin


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Reply #14 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 10:56pm
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That is why I quit practicing.  Why waste all my good shots in practice?  Cry  Shocked
  

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