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Anneling brass before reforming
Mar 26th, 2016 at 9:25pm
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Should Remington .30-30 WCF brass be annealed before reforming to .25-35 WCF?
  

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Reply #1 - Mar 26th, 2016 at 11:28pm
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You can if you want a bunch of squashed brass!!
Just put on a little Imperial sizing wax on the case and a little in the die if dry and run them trough, if sizing hard pull the shell down out of the sizer die smear the lube around and turn the case a half turn and run it back in the sizer die a little farther until it is all the way sized.
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Reply #2 - Mar 27th, 2016 at 12:21am
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Thanks for the info. I've never reformed any brass. Just making sure it done right.
  

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Reply #3 - Mar 27th, 2016 at 12:49am
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I would.   I once made 50 .219 Zipper from .30-30, and lost half of 'em on the first firing to splits down the side
  

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Reply #4 - Mar 27th, 2016 at 6:11am
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There is a complete difference in annealing and destroying due to over heating.
IF the bras goes to red, you just ruined them.

Read up on the process beforehand.


Don't try to form in one try.   Run the case in a bit, remove and do it a bit at a times.

Make sure it is lubed, not a bunch but has some on it.

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Reply #5 - Mar 27th, 2016 at 12:39pm
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[quote author=66545453270 link=1459041937/4#4 date=1459073518]There is a complete difference in annealing and destroying due to over heating.
IF the bras goes to red, you just ruined them. [\end quote]

KAF,

I disagree with you on warming up "bras" but totally agree on annealing the brass.  Grin

I do remember my one experience with fire forming .22 Hornet to .22 K. On my first reload after fire forming, about half of my cases would split at or near the neck. Was using Winchester brass and blamed it on the brass until a fellow shooter/reloader showed me how to anneal the .22K cases. He also told lightly annealing new brass before loading would help. Seems like I sold the K shortly afterward.



  

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Reply #6 - Mar 27th, 2016 at 12:52pm
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Dave,
These cases are once fired brass.  That was my concern.  The guy I am buying the reformed cases from has one of those high price annealers.  I got an email reply back from him this morning saying he would only anneal AFTER reforming the cases. 
This guy is a CB shooter/member and said he was going to the Tulsa gun show with a lot of brass to sell.
  

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Re: Anneling brass before reforming
Reply #7 - Mar 27th, 2016 at 1:25pm
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For making wildcat cases imperial wax is not a good lubricant. If you buy some anhydrous lanolin and mix some castor oil with it you will get the best case reforming agent available. Pretty cheap if you get it on ebay or the drug store. Works much better.
  

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Reply #8 - Mar 27th, 2016 at 2:40pm
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How are you holding the case Dave?
  

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Reply #9 - Mar 27th, 2016 at 4:19pm
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That is a cool idea!  (pun intended, as always  Grin)  Wish I had known when mom threw away her old bread machine.
  

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Reply #10 - Mar 27th, 2016 at 10:11pm
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ScheutzenDave,
Clearly you are the real expert around here and truly omniscient in all things. Everyone should take every word that escapes your mouth not as the drivel it is but as True Gospel.
  
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Reply #11 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 7:47am
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Brass will begin to glow a faint orange at about 950 degrees (F). Even if the heating is stopped at a couple of hundred degrees below this temperature, the damage has been done--it will be too soft.

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