Can you breech seat vitriol?

For what it's worth at this point, these are the three powders I intend to test side-by-side next Friday, weather permitting.

I weighed each of the charges thrown with my Harrell's powder measure set for 9.3gr. of AA4100. All the charges thrown with all three powders weighed exactly the same @ 9.3gr.

I weighed many multiples of each powder so I'm confident they all weigh the same by volume.

However, this proves, or disproves, absolutely nothing. The targets will show the results with no lies.

If all goes well I'll be back with test results the evening of 4-9-16.

JerryH

Frank,

No, I won't have that option this time. However, if the point of impact is the same I'll have to believe the velocity is very close to the same.

If this initial test goes well I'll run the same powders over a chronograph on 4-21-16, weather permitting. Then I can see what kind of numbers come up for ES and SD. 

My time is limited for each range outing so I can only accomplish a little at a time.

JerryH

Most here are already aware of Schuetzendave / Dave Patterson's numerous competitive accomplishments Frank as he has shared them as well as his knowledge here freely with this group on numerous occassions and at times daily. Dave is also one of those I was speaking of when I mentioned others and his consistent scores validate his years of success. I have the up most respect for him and his wilingness to share his extremly succesful personal and competitive experiences. 
In the Pacific NW Dave Purcell unknown to most here and one I have learned alot from over years is a top Regional and National level ISSA competitor and he has been for several years and his scores
will validate what I speak of on his behalf. He would also one of those considered as others as I mentioned in my post. The list goes on and that is why it is important to continually review the posted scores to determine
just who all those others are so one can pick all of thier brains for personal and successful competitive knowledge as non of us will ever know it all, but combined it gets us all just a little bit closer and that includes me.

I hope this helps to answer your question Frank and the rest of those that fall into the other catagory know who they are as do some on this site also. I choose to mention these two as they both use small capcity cases and all though they are not superior to anything else I thought it might make your evenging a little more enjoyable and your requests to me a little more friendly. 

I think we need to get back to the main Topic Ramshot Powder and I apologize for getting off Topic.

JLouis

40_Rod,
Can you define "old" vs. "new" lots of Enforcer used? My results with 4100 mfg. in 2010 are comparable to results using Enforcer dated 04/24/13. I've not yet tested the new Enforcer mfg. 12/16/15. Previous comments in this thread seem to suggest there may be VISIBLE differences between old & new lots of Enforcer. I'm anxiously awaiting results from JerryH and hope he will specify what "lots" he tests.

The reason that both 4100 and Enforcer were gone for so long was the plant that made them either had a fire or blew up (Take your version). A new plant was built and it took a while to get up to speed. I refer to anything that came from the old plant as old and this lot from the new plant as new.

40 Rod

The lot number on my Enforcer is 121615477.

JerryH

As promised here are the initial test results of the three powders. 

The weather was far from ideal for testing loads, with switching winds 10+ mph and gusting. The mirage was really running, in either direction at a moments notice, and boiling at times. With that disclaimer, what I was really looking for was vertical spread for this outing.

Using the same weight powder charge all three powders performed very close to the same. The stand-out was the old Scott 4100 from Western Powder. I wish I had more of it. AA4100 and Ramshot Enforcer gave almost identical results, although not up to my usual standards. Again, this was possibly due to the mirage.

So there is hope, and I truly believe that the Enforcer will prove to be a good replacement, at least for the 25-20WCF.

My next practice outing will be 4-21-16, weather permitting. This time I'll have a chronograph along and will spend the entire time working with the Ramshot Enforcer. 

JerryH