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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: New Starline Brass Available Reply #15 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:59am	Print Post
	Butt does it work of case lube?

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40_Rod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Extremism in the persuit of accuracy is not a vice Posts: 4285 Location: Knoxville, TN Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: New Starline Brass Available Reply #16 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 10:06am	Print Post
	RCBS makes a two die set of trim dies for converting 38-55 to 32-40. I have made hundreds of them using the die set. No need to anneal Run them threw the first die in 3 0r 4 passes with a little Imperial sizing die wax. Then run them through the second die and trim. The only cases I lost were all due to too much lube on the case. Once you learn how little is needed you won’t lose a one. 40 Rod


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Singleshotlover Oldtimer Offline Posts: 625 Location: New Iberia,Louisiana Joined: Jun 11^th, 2006	Re: New Starline Brass Available Reply #17 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 11:41pm	Print Post
	Don't really know. but with the Bag Balm I just couldn't resist. I like the Imperial die sizing wax for all my case sizing. Frank

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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 693 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: New Starline Brass Available Reply #18 - Mar 25^th, 2016 at 9:09pm	Print Post
	40_Rod wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 10:06am: RCBS makes a two die set of trim dies for converting 38-55 to 32-40... No need to anneal... Have you done this with Starline brass? The reason I ask is that I have 250 Starline .38-55 and the set of RCBS reforming dies would be a lot cheaper than an annealing machine. Thx


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GeorgeC Oldtimer Offline ASSRA 11411 Posts: 521 Location: Madison, IN Joined: Dec 27^th, 2012	Re: New Starline Brass Available Reply #19 - Mar 26^th, 2016 at 9:30am	Print Post
	Which brand of .38-55 WCF brass is best to reform into .32-40 WCF?

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kcajeel Full Member Offline Posts: 170 Location: Manistee, Mi. Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2010	Re: New Starline Brass Available Reply #20 - Mar 27^th, 2016 at 4:42pm	Print Post
	Why did my Starline brass lengthen .040 to .045 when I resized it? I was right on at 2.125 length from the manufacturer and after annealing and resizing it is running 2.160 to 2.170. Any ideas? Thanks, Jack

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Jeff_Schultz ASSRA Board Member Online Posts: 1600 Location: Ransomville, NY Joined: Apr 25^th, 2004	Re: New Starline Brass Available Reply #21 - Mar 27^th, 2016 at 5:02pm	Print Post
	Well, you sized it down and that brass, being non-compressible, has to go somewhere. When you reform brass by sizing it down it gets longer. When you blow it out, it gets shorter. It's one thing you can depend on.

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Skalkaho Oldtimer Online Posts: 776 Location: Montana Joined: Sep 29^th, 2006	Re: New Starline Brass Available Reply #22 - Mar 27^th, 2016 at 5:24pm	Print Post
	I annealed the Starline 38-55 and ran it thru my RCBS Cowboy 32-40 die, had no problem sizing them down with Imperial. Just to pass it on.........

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Aonghas Ex Member	Re: New Starline Brass Available Reply #23 - Mar 30^th, 2016 at 8:00am	Print Post
	kcajeel wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2016 at 5:26pm: I know about "start making 32-40 brass". I event went to the extent of buying a bunch of 38-55 brass with the thought of remaking them into 32-40's. I'm having all kinds of trouble forming the necks. They want to kink in on me. Does anyone make a step down die or maybe a die with a pin or rod inside to keep the brass from folding in? I've quit trying to reform them for the time being until I can get more good parts out. Buy or make a simple lathe and 'spin' them against a 'live' mandrel. -- Aonghas


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Aonghas Ex Member	Re: New Starline Brass Available Reply #24 - Mar 30^th, 2016 at 8:07am	Print Post
	Schuetzenmiester wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 8:48pm: GeorgeC wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 7:35pm: Bag balm is a good lubricant for treating dry wintered hands and cows love it, too. I never thought about it being a sizing lubricant. I never thought of that either, but should work well. When I was growing up, we used it as originally intended If it's what I think you're talking about, it's used across the pond as an antiseptic quick-healing ointment by all savvy countryfolk. I have a 500 ml tub of it handy. -- Aonghas


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Aonghas Ex Member	Re: New Starline Brass Available Reply #25 - Mar 30^th, 2016 at 8:13am	Print Post
	Smoke wrote on Mar 25^th, 2016 at 9:09pm: 40_Rod wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 10:06am: RCBS makes a two die set of trim dies for converting 38-55 to 32-40... No need to anneal... Have you done this with Starline brass? The reason I ask is that I have 250 Starline .38-55 and the set of RCBS reforming dies would be a lot cheaper than an annealing machine. Thx Annealing machine? No-one heard of a fire-brick box, a propane blowlamp, wood-ash or sand? (OK, you have to be sure to clean out all the sand...) -- Aonghas


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Aonghas Ex Member	Re: New Starline Brass Available Reply #26 - Mar 30^th, 2016 at 8:15am	Print Post
	kcajeel wrote on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 4:42pm: Why did my Starline brass lengthen .040 to .045 when I resized it? I was right on at 2.125 length from the manufacturer and after annealing and resizing it is running 2.160 to 2.170. Any ideas? Thanks, Jack Probably annealing at too high a temperature, thus making the brass much more ductile. -- Aonghas


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40_Rod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Extremism in the persuit of accuracy is not a vice Posts: 4285 Location: Knoxville, TN Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: New Starline Brass Available Reply #27 - Mar 30^th, 2016 at 8:31am	Print Post
	When I made mine I used that old crappy short Winchester 38-55 brass. When you get done it stretched long enough so that you usually trim about .010 off to square it up. 40 Rod


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