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Skalkaho Oldtimer Offline Posts: 860 Location: Montana Joined: Sep 29^th, 2006	Another Group buy? PJ style 215 gr for 32 caliber Mar 16^th, 2016 at 8:53pm	Print Post
	Here is a good candidate for another group buy in .323 , he only does .321...give me your input. thanks, Pete (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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CajunRebel Oldtimer Offline Posts: 694 Location: Alexandria, VA Joined: Nov 18^th, 2007	Re: Another Group buy? PJ style 215 gr for 32 caliber Reply #1 - Mar 16^th, 2016 at 9:20pm	Print Post
	What kind of minimum twist would this take, 1:14?


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Another Group buy? PJ style 215 gr for 32 caliber Reply #2 - Mar 16^th, 2016 at 10:03pm	Print Post
	CR I have shot a similar bullet in a 15 twist without having stabilization issues. Depending on your range elevation and air density etc. it might not work out as well for you in the same twist? JLouis

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Pentz Senior Forum Member Offline Funf und Zwanzig mit den Hut Posts: 435 Location: Vancouver, WA Joined: Sep 4^th, 2014	Re: Another Group buy? PJ style 215 gr for 32 caliber Reply #3 - Mar 16^th, 2016 at 10:27pm	Print Post
	The very last thing I need to do is order another mold before the other two arrive!! The agony.....

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Flatlander Oldtimer Offline Posts: 705 Location: Warm Arizona Joined: Apr 24^th, 2004	Re: Another Group buy? PJ style 215 gr for 32 caliber Reply #4 - Mar 16^th, 2016 at 10:31pm	Print Post
	Too heavy for my 1-16 twist.

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7645 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Another Group buy? PJ style 215 gr for 32 caliber Reply #5 - Mar 16^th, 2016 at 11:12pm	Print Post
	There is a issue with this bullet, even if made at .323. The nose will be to small for any of the barrel we use. If made in .323, the nose will be .310, to small for our .315 bores. If you used a newer Douglas or or other small groove barrels, .323 would be to large for the groove and the bore would still be to large for their .312 bores. Regarding the stability in a 15 twist, I shot the Lyman 323471 in my Douglas, 32/40 barrel (.315 bore) It was stable and accurate at 2100 fps but, showed tipping at 1590 fps. The original Lyman 323471 has a .318 nose. Frank PS Sometime in the April/May time frame (when you guy's replenish your funds) I'll be running a group buy on the Paul Jones 32 cal, 233 gr Spitzer. I've already talked to Al about it and he will stock the mold, after the group buy so, it will be available year round.

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rhbrink Full Member Offline Posts: 180 Location: Cass Co. MO. Joined: Jun 12^th, 2011	Re: Another Group buy? PJ style 215 gr for 32 caliber Reply #6 - Mar 17^th, 2016 at 7:09am	Print Post
	frnkeore wrote on Mar 16^th, 2016 at 11:12pm: There is a issue with this bullet, even if made at .323. The nose will be to small for any of the barrel we use. If made in .323, the nose will be .310, to small for our .315 bores. If you used a newer Douglas or or other small groove barrels, .323 would be to large for the groove and the bore would still be to large for their .312 bores. Regarding the stability in a 15 twist, I shot the Lyman 323471 in my Douglas, 32/40 barrel (.315 bore) It was stable and accurate at 2100 fps but, showed tipping at 1590 fps. The original Lyman 323471 has a .318 nose. Frank PS Sometime in the April/May time frame (when you guy's replenish your funds) I'll be running a group buy on the Paul Jones 32 cal, 233 gr Spitzer. I've already talked to Al about it and he will stock the mold, after the group buy so, it will be available year round. That will be good news! RB


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Skalkaho Oldtimer Offline Posts: 860 Location: Montana Joined: Sep 29^th, 2006	Re: Another Group buy? PJ style 215 gr for 32 caliber Reply #7 - Mar 17^th, 2016 at 8:51am	Print Post
	The PJ Mold I had was A tapered Mold. But shot in my RKS 11.5 Gain Twist very well, the 230 did better.The cast bullets I have on hand shoot very well in my 32-40 15 twist as does the 320 Borten/Darr mold. What I'm saying is this style "Tapered" would be another i'd like to have, maybe someone has the blueprint drawing of the Paul Jones in this weight. thanks, Pete

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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2942 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: Another Group buy? PJ style 215 gr for 32 caliber Reply #8 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 8:35am	Print Post
	frnkeore wrote on Mar 16^th, 2016 at 11:12pm: Frank PS Sometime in the April/May time frame (when you guy's replenish your funds) I'll be running a group buy on the Paul Jones 32 cal, 233 gr Spitzer. I've already talked to Al about it and he will stock the mold, after the group buy so, it will be available year round. Frank - can you give us some info on what twist will support the 233gr bullet at ~1500fps MV? Any chance you could post a drawing of same? Thanks.

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