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Reply #15 - Mar 14th, 2016 at 7:11pm
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So where are Wolf primers made? And, Sellier and Bellot?
  
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Reply #16 - Mar 14th, 2016 at 7:28pm
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I think Sellier & Bellot are nowadays from Czech Republic.

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Reply #17 - Mar 14th, 2016 at 8:38pm
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Don't know what it proves, but while everyone was typing, I was measuring some of those primers we just were talking about.
To wit: Dave's statement about Fed primers being a 'hair' bigger seems to be true. 
My Starrett mike (I use another for general use) that goes to ten thousanths accurately. The results using WLR and Fed 210 were the Win primers ranged from .2098 to .2101  avg. .21004
              Fed primers ranged from .2104 to .2107  avg. .21049
So, the Feds are around half a thou fatter. 
Dave, where was that article, and did it refer mostly to high pressure loads? Though I've used mixed brands clear up to .300 Win and others without trouble, I'd like to see his explanations.
  
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Reply #18 - Mar 14th, 2016 at 9:10pm
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Biggi - I would give S&B primers a try.  I don't have any LR's to measure for you but the LP's have to be seated hard so as not to have a high primer.  PS - They are good primers
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Reply #19 - Mar 14th, 2016 at 9:37pm
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Thanks, Dave. Now, back to our regular, scheduled programming.
  
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Reply #20 - Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:36pm
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International sales are sometimes puzzling.

Cabelas sells Sellier and Bellot (Czech Republic) primers for $19.95 per thousand.  The small pistol primers are of very good quality and I've just ordered some large rifle primers to test.

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Reply #21 - Mar 15th, 2016 at 1:15am
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So we have the cratered Miller Dave referenced using RWS 5.6x50R brass which uses small primers. SR and SP primers are the same dimensions so no slam back unless the RWS brass had the deep pockets that Biggi has encountered. He says both Fed and Rem primers had been used. Westerner reports that in a 32 Miller Rem primers had leaked gas that cut the block and Fed primers cured that which possibly goes along with calledflyer's measuring that Fed primers are about .0005 wider than Rems. None of this addresses any problem noted with using LP primers in LR pockets (except perhaps an indirect reference to modern vs old steel). I can only say that I use LPs because they have proven more accurate for me with the powders that I use and that my rifles have sustained no damage.
  
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Re: German primers
Reply #22 - Mar 15th, 2016 at 2:02am
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I just meisured some of my assortment of primers with the following results.
Old Alcan RWS primers .1235 -.124 
Very Old Federal. .127 -.127
Herters #120 .1285. - .129
Old CCI #250 LRM   .126.  -.127
WW LRM silver  .1275  -.1292
New WW LRM brass .125. -.128
I just checked the first three out of every box, so not a perfect comparison.
  
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Reply #23 - Mar 15th, 2016 at 12:53pm
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Ain't primers fun? 
When I measured the diameter of the rifle primers I measured twenty of each number, and included the range and average.
 
Earlier, when we discussed the depth we never noted the amount of crush that the primers will endure. The seated dimension is different than the measured out of the box one. So, a primer that is a few thou taller than it's neighbor may seat to the same. Just a manufacturing tolerance probably.
  
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