I've read the posts and am pleased at the news. I can go see what is around on the shelves and try one of the ball powders. (funny, I keep wanting to call them "new'). Don't know which one, may be decided by what's there that day. 
Though they work for many, I'm also happy I can dispense with the pistol primers I thought some indicated with these powders. Just not happy with using them here. 
Each that responded here has been a big help. Thanks guys.

If you have used 4759 switching to 4227 is a short hop. Performs very much the the same and measures better.

Old advice was 4227 small cases up to 32/20. 4759 large cases down to 38/55. I am using 4227 with good results in the 38/55 now reserving my small supply of 4759 for larger.

It does fine with standard rifle primers.

Boats

Frank you advise using the Rem Large Pistol primers for every powder that you post and not just for the 4759 and BP loads. One would tend to think that one would feel real bad should his recomendation ruin someones breach block as Schuetzen Dave pointed out. There are plenty of Large Rifle primers out there that will provide better results without causing ones rifle any harm.
Schuetzen Dave thanks for sharing the damaged caused to the Miller it might save someone some grief by not knowing any better. I might add it was the first time that I have read documented damage created to a modern rifle. I have read about a few instances of the same damage occuring to an original rifle but never to a modern one and a Miller to boot.

JLouis

Now don't get your Feathers all ruffled Frank not every one has the same opinions as you on a variety of subjects. It just so happens I have found just the opposite to be true on most of yours and that is how the good folks here learn.
You just recently stated that you do not spend much time at your range finding out exactly what your rifle likes? I am just the opposite and spend countless hours at the range finding out exactly what my rifles do like. I think this might be why we differ so much. I have discovered allot in the long journey by doing so and you are still not exactly sure by your own admission about yours so you still have allot yet to be discovered.

I have always considered you to be friend Frank so please don't let the differences in our individual personal experiances and different knowledge base destroy it. I only question your posts when I have found the opposite to be true based on my own personal experiences of which I have proven to myself to be true. Keep in mind I am still on a learning curve and there is still allot yet to be discovered. I do know what has and has not worked for me including small capacity cases and high BC's but they seem to work pretty well for
a few of the fellows but. It very simply did not work out that way for me over the long run. Every coin has two sides and all I have to share is my side and not that of others so thats what I do.

JLouis

Frank you are straining our friendship my friend so when is enough, enough of trying to prove you are right all of the time even when you might be wrong to this group? I have more important things in my life to do than to answer all of your never ending questions when you already know the answers. You tend to claim it is me who never agrees with your opinions so you need to take a close look in the mirror before you continually acuse myself of what you yourself are doing on a regular basis. I think it unfair to this group for you to continue to do so and I am sure they are all sick and tired of us both! You do allot for this group so please don't continue to be little yourself over anything that I have to share that does not happen to agree with your vast knowledge!

Life is short my friend or is it now X friend I will leave that choice up to you but I would appreciate you letting me know exactly where we stand?

JLouis

The use of pistol primers, in my opinion, has more to do with the mainspring than the powder. When the primer is lightly hit you may get erratic ignition especially with hard rifle primers. Generally Pistol primers are softer and give better ignition when the mainspring isn’t up to the task of hitting hard enough to reliably light off rifle primers. There are many who say that either a primer goes off or it doesn’t that is not true. Many years ago when I had my first CPA I was having trouble with my bench groups. A friend looked over my load and asked if I had tried adjusting the spring tension. He gave the spring tension screw a half turn and told me to try it. My groups shrunk by half! The hardness of the primer and the hotness of the primer are two different things.

40 Rod

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Rod, I can't concur .... For any primer to ignite, the firing pin has to hit the primer cup - Fast & Hard with sufficient force to crush the anvil - Period!  If the anvil is not crushed, the primer compound does not ignite.  Accordingly, any main spring has to have enough foot pounds of energy for the firing pin to crush the anvil and if not enough foot pounds - the anvil is not crushed and the compound is not ignited-Period.  There is no better variable main spring force on the firing pin ... it either fully ignites or it doesn't

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The hardness or softness of primer cups is solely dependent on the different brands of primers with some LP & LR being the same hardness.  Here's my "DMS test" of many brands of LP & LR primer cup hardness:
22 April 2015 Update – Final Version:
Test Procedure:  Using a Lee Hardness Tester that measures Brinell hardness, placed a new primer on a piece of steel.  Held the indent ball on the primer for 30 seconds using a 5/32” SS ball with 60 lbs load pressure
  Measurement is the diameter of the indent, smaller numbers indicate harder brass
Old Additions = * 
New Additions = **
Pistol Primers 

**0.30  CCI  500 SP, lot K27U41
0.32 – CCI 300 LP
** 0.32 CCI 350 LPM, lot G10R
0.38 – Federal GM150 Match LP
0.38 – Sellier & Bellot SP
0.38 – Sellier & Bellot LP
0.40 – Federal 155 LP Magnum
0.40 – Winchester - Western WLP  
0.42 – Federal  150 LP
0.42 -  Federal  100 SP 
*0.42 – Remington 1 ½ SP
0.44 – CCI 500 SP  
0.48 – Remington 2 ½ LP
*0.48 – CCI LP Lot 0264 – old CCI primers

Rifle Primers 
*0.24 – Herters 120 LR
0.26 – CCI BR-2 LR
0.28 – CCI 200 LR, lot H27M
** 0.28 Win-WLR, lot HNL347G
** 0.28 CCI 400 SR, lot CO1K
*0.30 – Rem UMC Nickeled High Pressure LR
** 0.30 CCI 400 SR, lot E26U
0.32 – Federal 215 LR Magnum
0.34 – Remington 9 ½ LR
*0.36 – Western 8 ½ LR
*0.38 - Rem 7 ½ Bench Rest
*0.38 – Alcan LR Magnum
*0.40 – Federal  210 LR
*0.40 – Winchester 115 Staynless LR 

* 0.30 - Dynamit AG cal 6.34
* 0.32 - Dynamit AG cal 4.5

Finally, the use of pistol or rifle primers is solely dependent on the briance generated by the primer compound