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smoke810 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 260 Location: N.E. Oklahoma Joined: May 22^nd, 2004	Re: C & R (Curio & Relic) Reply #15 - Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:07pm	Print Post
	One more comment and I promise no more posts. I don't have a clue how old you guys are, but I served my hitch in the Army basic at Ft Leonard Wood. and Korea and I will assure you nobody called what they were carrying a "Gun" also the term "Rifle" was rare. What you were trying to kill people with was referred to as a "Your Weapon". I don't recall anybody getting kicked in the nuts for calling it that either. Of course I may be getting senile and just don't know any better. Don G


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Jeff_Schultz ASSRA Board Member Online Posts: 1596 Location: Ransomville, NY Joined: Apr 25^th, 2004	Re: C & R (Curio & Relic) Reply #16 - Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:53pm	Print Post
	What you used in Korea was a weapon indeed! What we use in shooting at marks is not.

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fallingblock ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 633 Location: Wisconsin Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: C & R (Curio & Relic) Reply #17 - Feb 17^th, 2016 at 8:53pm	Print Post
	I rather like the sign I have seen on several hard gun cases. " Fragile Paper Punching Equipment" Cheers, Laurie

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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2849 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: C & R (Curio & Relic) Reply #18 - Feb 17^th, 2016 at 10:31pm	Print Post
	Back to the original C&R discussion. You have to be able to prove the gun is over 50 years old. Serial # is one way. The fact that they quit making that model over 50 years ago is another. On models that were made over and under 50 years ago there can be a problem proving it. Guns also must be complete and in their original configuration. Another grey area. A receiver only requires an FFL. An FFL can confirm a C&R by calling the BATF. An FFL doesn't have to honor a C&R if he chooses not to. Had mine for many years. Love it but spend way too much money at times.


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rgchristensen Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1083 Joined: Jan 2^nd, 2014	Re: C & R (Curio & Relic) Reply #19 - Feb 17^th, 2016 at 10:37pm	Print Post
	westerner wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 4:13pm: Thank you Reb for being so eloquent. I have nothing against the word. A foot makes a good weapon also, when attached to the right leg. Joe. JOE: Alas, I am left-footed!! CHRIS RGChristensen


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jorgy Newbie Offline Posts: 1 Location: minnesota Joined: May 21^st, 2013	Re: C & R (Curio & Relic) Reply #20 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 6:14am	Print Post
	I have a C & R. If I remember correctly it also considers the caliber in determing if a gun can be a C & R. If it is a obsolete caliber being no longer in current production(EG 40-82 38-56) or which ammo cannot be obtained commercially it is then considered a C & R.


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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2849 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: C & R (Curio & Relic) Reply #21 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 9:44pm	Print Post
	Caliber is not relevant to C&R status. I think it may apply to Antique status but I am not sure on that.


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11421 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: C & R (Curio & Relic) Reply #22 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 9:48pm	Print Post
	After some after thought, maybe a kick in the nuts is a little drastic. A horn growing out of your forehead will suffice. Joe.

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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: C & R (Curio & Relic) Reply #23 - Feb 20^th, 2016 at 1:06am	Print Post
	slumlord44 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 10:31pm: Back to the original C&R discussion. You have to be able to prove the gun is over 50 years old. Serial # is one way. The fact that they quit making that model over 50 years ago is another. On models that were made over and under 50 years ago there can be a problem proving it. Guns also must be complete and in their original configuration. Another grey area. A receiver only requires an FFL. An FFL can confirm a C&R by calling the BATF. An FFL doesn't have to honor a C&R if he chooses not to. Had mine for many years. Love it but spend way too much money at times.

	There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading, the few who learn by observation, and the rest who have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves. Proud Noodlehead
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win 32-40 Junior Member Offline Posts: 71 Joined: May 21^st, 2014	Re: C & R (Curio & Relic) Reply #24 - Feb 20^th, 2016 at 12:16pm	Print Post
	The term "Weapon" is also offensive to me. Is it supposed to infer the intention of shooting humans? I am a target shooter and collector of antiques, and for my guns ,weapon is the most inappropriate term imaginable
	« Last Edit: Feb 20^th, 2016 at 12:41pm by win 32-40 »

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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: C & R (Curio & Relic) Reply #25 - Feb 20^th, 2016 at 2:07pm	Print Post
	A screw driver is a screw driver, whether you use it as a paint can opener, crude wood chisel, small pry bar, a screw driver, or something else. Too much semantics and disagreeing over what the meaning of "is" is. The politicians and lawyers love it when they can get us confused over little things.

	There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading, the few who learn by observation, and the rest who have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves. Proud Noodlehead
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