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Re: Breech Seating a 44 Stevens 22rf
Reply #15 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 3:23am
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Kcajeel,

The Monica Lewinsky match is benchrest, 22 rimfires at 100 yards.  We use the red WSU 50-ft gallery target, with 6 bulls on an 8.5x11 piece of card stock paper.  This is the same target as the ASSRA gallery target.

The targets are stapled to backers on our club's 100-yard range.  Each competitor shoots 5 targets for score, shooting 2 shots at each bull, 10 shots for score.  Max score is 1250 with 50 centers.   

Shooters can put up as many targets as they desire.  Some guys put up all 5 at once.  I prefer 2 at a time, side by side.  There is no set pattern or way.

With practice, our scores are about the same as our best offhand scores shot during the winter league.

The bulls are so small that it is effectively a scopes-only match.  We have 2 classes; traditional single shots and any rifle.

Our range is about 300 yards from the beach and faces south.  Wind is normally a factor, as is mirage.

We are very flexible as to when we hold the match.  It appears on the Redwood Gun Club match schedule and we have Tuesdays reserved, but we work around the time & calendar demands of competitors.  We're all local, phone calls & e-mails can arrange things pretty easily.

It is a really long drive from Michigan to the Pacific Ocean.  If you came, we would arrange at least one more match (200 yard benchrest?) or maybe two.  Maybe we could get the State of Jefferson guys to drive down.  Tourism is a big deal here.  There is plenty for the Missus to do.
  
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Re: Breech Seating a 44 Stevens 22rf
Reply #16 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 11:36pm
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I used to shoot that target at 100 yds at Tacoma when we had the Icicle 22 RF match in February.  We haven't had the Icicle for several years due to lack of cold weather shooters  Embarrassed
  

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Re: Breech Seating a 44 Stevens 22rf
Reply #17 - Dec 10th, 2016 at 12:13pm
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Would you gentlemen please explain how you are "pulling" the bullets from factory cases and processing them for your reloading. 
I several  methods and have used them on occasionally but not for rimfire ammunition.

One of the major factors in experimenting with the 22rf rounds is the issue of primed case availability. the concept interests me and I have tried to follow most of the threads and posts whenever this has come up.
I personally would be a bit concerned for the safety aspects.  Since purchasing empty but primed 22 rf ammo is no longer a possibility, "pulling" bullets safely seems to only way the rest of us can get cases.
  

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Re: Breech Seating a 44 Stevens 22rf
Reply #18 - Dec 10th, 2016 at 2:02pm
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Shouldn't a Monica Lewinski match be shot from under the bench?

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
  
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Re: Breech Seating a 44 Stevens 22rf
Reply #19 - Dec 10th, 2016 at 2:14pm
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My adventures in pulling .22 rimfire bullets have usually resulted in damaged bullets.  I have not tried an impact puller.  That seems like asking for trouble.  I thought the breech-seated bullets were cast, not the factory ones.

A few years back, one of the smaller companies (the outfit from the Philippines) made up packages of primed cases.  A few guys on this Forum bought them, including me.  Perhaps that could happen again.
  
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Re: Breech Seating a 44 Stevens 22rf
Reply #20 - Dec 10th, 2016 at 2:23pm
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QuestionableMaynard8130 wrote on Dec 10th, 2016 at 12:13pm:
Would you gentlemen please explain how you are "pulling" the bullets from factory cases and processing them for your reloading. 
I several  methods and have used them on occasionally but not for rimfire ammunition.

One of the major factors in experimenting with the 22rf rounds is the issue of primed case availability. the concept interests me and I have tried to follow most of the threads and posts whenever this has come up.
I personally would be a bit concerned for the safety aspects.  Since purchasing empty but primed 22 rf ammo is no longer a possibility, "pulling" bullets safely seems to only way the rest of us can get cases.

Wayne, I did thread about 2, or so years ago, of how I pull bullets. It,s simple. I made a shell holder that I hold in my left hand, then with pliers, I twist the bullet to my right and it comes right out. I save both the powder and bullets.

I can re-post the pictures later, if you like. I'm on my phone right now.

Frank
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Re: Breech Seating a 44 Stevens 22rf
Reply #21 - Dec 10th, 2016 at 2:29pm
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jhm wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:15pm:
Beautiful rifle and a LOT of research. Do you thing there would be much difference if you had a forearm on it?

Johnny, I don't think so but, I will try it this year. I'm actually suppose to have one when I shoot ISSA matches..

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Re: Breech Seating a 44 Stevens 22rf
Reply #22 - Dec 10th, 2016 at 4:57pm
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Wayne,
I'm home now. Here are the pictures of taking the bullets out of the cases.

It goes as fast as you can pick the cartridge up, put it in the shell holder and twist the pliers.

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Re: Breech Seating a 44 Stevens 22rf
Reply #23 - Dec 10th, 2016 at 5:31pm
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I'll have to try that with pliers.   I have a shell holder for 22 RF, but have used it in my C press, holding the bullets.  They come out, but marred.  I tried dykes.  Just hold the bullet and pull the press handle down. Still marred the bullets.
  
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Re: Breech Seating a 44 Stevens 22rf
Reply #24 - Dec 12th, 2016 at 8:22pm
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obviously the bullets are not for reuse,  Grin  except for adding to the lead melt-down collection.
  I was wondering how they were secured so as not to set off the priming while working with it.
  

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Re: Breech Seating a 44 Stevens 22rf
Reply #25 - Dec 12th, 2016 at 10:09pm
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They are secured in the shell holder. After that, I put them in a cci mini mag container.

I've pulled a few thousand that way. They only seem to go off after being struck with the firing pin.

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Re: Breech Seating a 44 Stevens 22rf
Reply #26 - Dec 15th, 2016 at 6:19pm
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I have pulled several hundred RF 22 Mag bullets with an inertial puller using a washer that just fits the body and fully supports the rim for 360 degrees. I've never had one go off while pulling, but of course, I can't guarantee others will have the same good fortune.
  
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Re: Breech Seating a 44 Stevens 22rf
Reply #27 - Dec 15th, 2016 at 10:53pm
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I don't pull bullets because I lucked out buying primed empty Aqula cases that are not available any more.  But I reload 22LR's with black powder and smokeless.  Might be interested in the latest writeup ...

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Re: Breech Seating a 44 Stevens 22rf
Reply #28 - Dec 21st, 2016 at 3:42pm
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I was in on the empty case buy that John Boy alerted me to way back - I also have been using them to load black powder loads using the Mohs heeled bullet mold we had made. In fact, the Hunting Shack (where we purchased our primed cases) sold them for this exact reason, but I guess the schuetzen guys who breech seat faded away so they would not support the large order required to get more when they ran out.
Now that I've gotten caught up in schuetzen I'd like to try breech seating for the rimfire also. My question is what tool are you using to breech seat the bullet? Just a push rod, or something more sophisticated?
  
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Re: Breech Seating a 44 Stevens 22rf
Reply #29 - Dec 21st, 2016 at 6:39pm
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Baja_Traveler wrote on Dec 21st, 2016 at 3:42pm:

Now that I've gotten caught up in schuetzen I'd like to try breech seating for the rimfire also. My question is what tool are you using to breech seat the bullet? Just a push rod, or something more sophisticated?


Yes, it is, pretty much a push rod. 

I set the depth, using the Russ Weber method. 

1. Put the bullet in backward

2. Measure from the back of the barrel, to the bullet nose

3. Add the bullet length to the #2 measurement

4. Make your seater to that length

I make mine out of 3/8 brass rod. They BS easy as long as the bullet isn't over .001 larger than he groove diameter.

I shoot off the bench, throwing each charge into the case before chambering it. The little round thing is the adapter I use so, I can use the powder measure with the 30 cal spout.

Shooting that way, I can easily, load and shoot 10 shots in 20 min. The ISSA time limit.

Frank
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